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  •  I agree. (10+ / 0-)

    I've noticed a similar correspondence in human interaction to the 3rd law of motion in Newtonian Physics: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    It seems to me the whole of human history involves humans pushing endlessly back and forth at the infinite opposing poles of all the things they don't like. I think the forces impelling the forward movement of these regressive causes are unleashing the very forces that will destroy their own momentum.

    I realize many people will read this and think I am nuts...I look at things way differently than most people. (shrugs shoulders)

    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.--Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act I, scene 5

    by Ooooh on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 08:11:57 AM PST

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    •  This is good (2+ / 0-)
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      Unions have gotten a bit lazy. Now forcing them to show results and organize will result in a rejuvenated union.

      •  I am a UAW member (0+ / 0-)

        We've never stopped organizing, but it is such an uphill battle that very few gains are made. IF we manage to organize a small shop, it's no guarantee we'll be able to negotiate a contract, because so many employers will just pick up and move to avoid having to deal with the union. And trying to organize larger plants like BMW or Nissan in the south is like pissing into the wind, big corporations pay large amounts of money to hire consultants who stir up dissension between people, to create fear about what will happen if the union gets voted in, and they have unlimited ability to hold captive meetings with employees to do all this. All this while the union has to hold meetings off site and hope people attend, hang around outside the workplaces to hand out leaflets-at a legally recognized distance-of course, knock on doors of people's houses and hope people will talk to them. I worked on organizing drives in the '90s, it is grueling work, and I can honestly say I've never worked on a winning organizing drive.

        We've always been politically active as well.  Unions have a big public relation problem, a part of that is the sheer amount of power organized capital has against working people, when was the last time you ever saw anyone say anything positive about unions in broadcast or print media? So few people belong to unions anymore, and this is where people get their information about unions.

        People who are not like Kossaks don't really understand how the "news" they are paying attention to is not giving them the facts they need to make good judgments about what is going on in our country. It isn't just about unions organizing, change needs to happen in people's minds and hearts.

        Change, when it happens will rise up from the bottom, too many of our "leaders" are not about to lead unless forced by the will of the people.

        There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.--Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act I, scene 5

        by Ooooh on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 08:02:46 AM PST

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        •  Long reply (0+ / 0-)

          And not one mention of why someone should join the UAW.   Seems like many young people ask the simple question of what's in it for me. Or, more specifically, what exactly am I getting for my dues?

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