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  •  Meanwhile, let me get out my drum. (2+ / 0-)
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    tytalus, gerrilea

    I'd like to say a few words about semiautomatic pistols (SA), as opposed to revolvers>

    1) You can see if a revolver is loaded.  With a semiauto, you can't.  How many people die per year in accidental shootings because of this alone? Do I have to explain to anyone the implications of a handgun that you can't tell is loaded?

    2) A semiauto is not ready for use until you jack a round into the chamber, which takes time and which reveals your position.  Both of which could be critical.

    3) Because of 2), many people carry semiautos cocked with a round under the hammer.  What happens if the weapon is dropped? What happens in a struggle?

    4) Because of 3), semiautos are designed with various safety mechanisms, which means when you really need the weapon, it may not fire.

    5) Semiautos accept extended magazines.

    6) Semiautos can potentially be modified to full automatic fire.

    7) In case you might care, semiautos spit out brass with your fingerprints on it.

    Semiauto pistols are inherently unsafe and unreliable.

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    by gzodik on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 09:50:28 AM PST

    •  A few things... (2+ / 0-)
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      gerrilea, PavePusher

      Most revolvers are also semiautomatic, meaning one pull, one shot, without cocking or cycling a new round with bolt or pump.  

      1. A revolver is no safer than a gun with a magazine. It's up to the user to check and see if it is loaded. Simply looking at a gun without opening it is not a safe way to determine if it is loaded.  

      2. correct

      3. Not all handguns with magazines have to be cocked or have a hammer.

      4. Possible, but most police use Glocks, which are one of the most reliable magazine fed handguns in the world.

      5. correct

      6. correct

      7. correct

      Handguns with magazines are not necessarily less safe or less reliable. I again point to most police preferring Glocks over revolvers.  

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      by Texas Lefty on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 10:18:58 AM PST

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    •  yikes, gzodik ... you sound like me ... (4+ / 0-)
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      gzodik, Tonedevil, gerrilea, PavePusher

      The implications of not being able to see? Assume the SOB is loaded, always (you ought to do that anyhow. Really.) -- and never ever ever handle it as if it's not.

      For the rest? Training and paying attention, you'll hear from advocates of the "modern" semiauto, make the difference.

      My training and experience lead me heavily to favor revolvers, though ...

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      by BlackSheep1 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 10:48:29 AM PST

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    •  All guns are always loaded (7+ / 0-)

      Unless you have checked them immediately beforehand.

    •  "With a semiauto, you can't." (0+ / 0-)

      Many semi-auto's now have loaded-chamber indicators.  And if they don't, the "press-check" option is quite simple and quick.

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