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  •  Foxx has her ... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... coterie of district morons in line, but would her crazed, drooling goober act play statewide? Someone who understands North Carolina politics in detail would have to assess that one. I know there are large pockets of evolved beings in the state, but are there enough?

    •  Hagan would clean her clock (3+ / 0-)
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      Hagan beat the legendary Elizabeth Dole by 9 points. I would love to see Foxx run - purely to get her out of the House.

      NC Democrats won every statewide race in 2012 where we had an incumbent - Atty Gen, Sec of State, Insurance Comm., Auditor, Treasurer, and Supt. of Schools. The statewide races that flipped - Governor and Lt Gov - were open seats. You can't gerrymander statewide races.

      Dems also got a majority of the votes for US House, but thanks to the gerrymandered district, won just 4 of 13 seats.

      Foxx might play well in rural Western NC, but her Teabagger nuttiness would sink her in the I-85 corridor.

      Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.

      by bear83 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 06:08:05 AM PST

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      •  Unfortunately... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...getting Foxx out of the House accomplishes little, since another equally crazy lunatic might succeed her.

        I've learned that celebrations of whackos getting beat can be short-lived, there are plenty enough hard right districts that another whacko always pops up.

        I still celebrate Allen West going down, but Foxx, Goehmert, Bachmann, and Steve King all are reminders that we can never get rid of all of them.

        But I agree someone like Foxx won't beat Hagan.

        44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

        by DCCyclone on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 06:12:57 AM PST

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      •  Thanks! Exactly what I wanted to know n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    •  As One evolved NC being (1+ / 0-)
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      From the Research Triangle Park area I doubt there are enough evolved beings unfortunately. Just a gut feeling based on what I saw in the last election cycle, I.e. gay marriage ban

      •  You should get out more. (1+ / 0-)
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        bumiputera

        When I lived in the Triangle (and I was there in 1994), I sometimes felt the same way. But it's a pretty narrow view, and hasn't been borne out by my experience elsewhere in the state.

      •  w/r/t gay marriage, it takes a different approach (0+ / 0-)

        ref http://www.theatlantic.com/...

        We've learned the lessons of CA prop 8, and it takes time -- and a concerted campaign -- to change minds.

        As for NC -- how on earth did Dare County vote against the ban?

        I hope; therefore, I can live.

        by tietack on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 06:33:04 AM PST

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        •  the other states that passed marriage equality (0+ / 0-)

          were not only more progressive, but they also had the benefit of voting on it at the same time as the presidential election. I think it might at least have been closer if the vote had been in November.

          "Did they really think that we wouldn't notice? Nice try-- but we got you!" Rev. Al Sharpton

          by growingMajorityMN on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 01:13:36 PM PST

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          •  The Margin In NC Was a LOT Closer... (0+ / 0-)

            ...than it has been in other states that passed similar amendments.

            In a lot of states the yes broke 80%.  In NC it was 61%.  That's by no means a squeaker, but it was a good demonstration of where the trend line on this issue is headed.

            “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

            by RoIn on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 01:43:56 PM PST

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    •  We're not just pockets. (1+ / 0-)
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      Let's get that out of the way first. The Amendment One vote was awful, but remember that Proposition 8 passed California, albeit by a narrower margin. If the state economy had been better, Obama would have won here for the second time. We consistently elect Democrats statewide. Our demographics are changing rapidly.

      So—Foxx has all the charisma of a road accident (to borrow from Douglas Adams). She doesn't have the do-gooder rep that Elizabeth Dole had. The racist coalition that elected that other road accident, Jesse Helms, is long gone. Even with more name recognition, she'd be where she is right now in the PPP poll: the leader in an extremely weak field.

      We may see better statewide candidates emerge from the GOP class of 2012 (Dan Forrest, Mark Meadows), but really, their bench is pretty thin.

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