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  •  Were you under the impression (none)
    that this was Newsweek's story?  

    It wasn't.  Not by two years it wasn't.  What was that about 'unverified'?  

    Were you under the impression that their story put Americans in jeopardy?  

    Maybe you should take that up with the American commander in Afghanistan.  He thinks otherwise.  

    Useful idiots like you disgust me.  You have framed "the relevant question" purely in terms of the ignorance someone else fed you.  

    You are the tool of those who did this, and you're letting the rest of us down.  

    •  And the book went "flush" (none)
      "...that this was Newsweek's story?  
      It wasn't.  Not by two years it wasn't.  What was that about 'unverified'?"

      Newsweek said that a Pentagon report confirmed allegations of a Qu'ran being flushed down a toilet.
      Forget for a moment that its really hard to flush a book down a toilet, as I know you already have with your limited ability to evaluate this story on fact.
      It was an unverified story because all Newsweek never asked the Pentagon, on record, "Is this true?"  If they had, then they could at least have the cover of saying that:

      1.  the spokesperson denied it
      2.  the spokesperson confirmed it

      They tried neither..  

      "Useful idiots like you disgust me.  You have framed "the relevant question" purely in terms of the ignorance someone else fed you."

      Flushing a book down a toilet?
      Tell me about the ignorance that people are feeding others.

      John

      •  liar (none)
        newsweek gave the story to the pentagon before running it. the pentagon chose to not respond.
        •  "Senior defense official" (none)
          "liar
          newsweek gave the story to the pentagon before running it. the pentagon chose to not respond."

          I'm not going to call you a liar.  I'm just going to suggest that you don't have a grip on the story.

          Newsweek gave a draft of the story to a "senior defense official".  He didn't "choose not to respond", but he/she corrected them on something in the story.  Which is far different from Newsweek saying to an actual spokesperson, on record, "Did we flush Qu'rans down the toilet?"

          Newsweek never did that.  They never even asked the "senior defense official" that they "vetted" the story with specifically about the Qu'ran incident.

          If they had asked a spokesperson for a response, his/her reaction would at least have given Newsweek cover of suggesting that they checked both sides of the story.  They didn't.

          John

          •  Lying troll (none)
            At least get your facts straight.

            Veteran reporter Michael Isikoff relied on a well-placed and historically reliable government source. We sought comment from one military spokesman (he declined) and provided the entire story to a senior Defense Department official, who disputed one assertion (which we changed) and said nothing about the charge of abusing the Qur'an. Had he objected to the allegations, I am confident that we would have at the very least revised the item, but we mistakenly took the official's silence for confirmation.
            •  If you're going to accuse me of lying... (none)
              You said that I lied.
              This is what I responded to:
              "liar
              newsweek gave the story to the pentagon before running it. the pentagon chose to not respond."

              Your Newsweek quote:
              "We sought comment from one military spokesman (he declined) and provided the entire story to a senior Defense Department official, who disputed one assertion (which we changed) and said nothing about the charge of abusing the Qur'an."

              Note, as I said:
              >>>Newsweek gave a draft of the story to a "senior defense official".  He didn't "choose not to respond", but he/she corrected them on something in the story.  Which is far different from Newsweek saying to an actual spokesperson, on record, "Did we flush Qu'rans down the toilet?"<<<

              Now where is my "lie"??

              They never asked the critical question of their second source.  They just showed him an entire piece and he objected to one section.  They never asked a Pentagon spokesperson.  They checked one anonymous source with another anonymous source.

              It was classical shitty reporting.
              Now step up and tell me where I lied.

              John

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