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  •  Actually, with the correct flame retadant, AND... (5+ / 0-)

    ...an invisble (embedded, as in the 'Globe') sprinkler system, a thatched property is safer than a wooden roof!

    'Per Ardua Ad Astra'

    by shortfinals on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17:19 PM PST

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    •  Wooden roofs are death traps in California (7+ / 0-)

      Whole neighborhoods have burned down because just a few wooden roofs allowed embers to spread fires miles outside the perimeter.

      I think it is cool that there are options to add fire safety to thatch and am reminded again at the importance of matching your building materials and style to your region. :-)

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 01:29:33 PM PST

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      •  Most jurisdictions have outlawed (6+ / 0-)

        Cedar shake roofs due to the fire hazard. Houston, TX, had a huge apartment complex burn to the ground as the flames leaped from roof to roof.  I saw a fire try to spread in the neighborhood I grew up in.  One house was on fire and the embers were falling down on a house about a quarter mile away.

        “that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.” Thomas Jefferson

        by markdd on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 02:15:35 PM PST

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        •  Fire regulations in the US... (4+ / 0-)
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          .. seem to be so variable, that you hardly know what to do from state to state.

          'Per Ardua Ad Astra'

          by shortfinals on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 04:05:38 PM PST

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          •  hah, try county to county, (3+ / 0-)
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            even city to city.  My city is just now trying to backdate sprinkler systems into older (1960 vintage) retail spaces....

            “that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.” Thomas Jefferson

            by markdd on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 04:38:54 PM PST

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          •  In all fairness, we do have a bit of variety (0+ / 0-)

            in our weather, rainfall, etc., across our 3.7 million square miles of territory...

            Where I live in East TN, I've sometimes received 59" of rain in 1 year. Floods here used to be devastating, killed hundreds of people every year until the federal government stepped in with dams, hydroelectric projects, land use restrictions, etc. Not surprisingly, you can't build here in the 100-yr floodplain.

            But hurricanes are not a problem so, until changing weather patterns landed us in a relatively new tornado alley, there was no reason to build for high horizontal wind loading as Floridians do post-Andrew.

            We have almost no noticeable seismic activity so we don't have California-style structural requirements (but if/when the New Madrid fault ever cuts loose again like it did in the early 1800s, e.g., magnitude >8, the devastation will be terrible because of our construction practices).

            And so far, even in years of deep drought, we've had nothing like the devastating fires the arid, coniferous West suffers so we have more latitude in our selection of roofing materials. But I have yet to see a thatched roof here, and it's been years since I've seen untreated wood shingles for sale...

            YES WE DID -- AGAIN. FOUR MORE YEARS.

            by raincrow on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 08:55:23 PM PST

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