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  •  Eclectablog - didn't AFP have a permit (0+ / 0-)

    to set up their tents and have a rally in that space? If that is true, and the pro-labor rally invaded the space they had previously reserved using the permit process, it's a fact that should be in the discussion.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 11:21:01 AM PST

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    •  I don't know if AFP did (1+ / 0-)
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      The State Capitol website says that "Involve America" had reserved it. I wrote about this at Eclectablog:

      As more groups sign on to Tuesday’s Lansing rally, conservative groups reserve Capitol steps to thwart them

      However, conservative groups are determined to throw a monkey wrench into their plans. The Michigan Laborers District Council has reserved the Capitol East Steps and the North and South Lawns. That won’t be of much use, however, because the legislature is adjourned until Tuesday. Who has the steps and lawns reserved that day? The conservative front group Involve America.

      Who is Involve America? According to their website they are:

      [A]n organization that engages young adults (ages 18 to 25) in discussing how they are impacted by the ailing economy. We are a nonpartisan 501(c)(4) that works to involve young people in the political process by highlighting and seeking solutions to their immediate economic challenges, so that the next generation is not saddled with the consequences of decisions made by those before them.
      The fact that they are a 501(c)(4) organization is not a coincidence. This allows them to receive funding without having to disclose who the donors are. This group, which is clearly engaged in promoting tea party values in the same way as Americans for Prosperity and the Club for Growth, doesn’t reveal even a tiny glimpse of where they get their funding. But they clearly DO have funding. At a rally in at the University of New Hampshire, for example, they gave away “T-shirts, hats and raffle prizes”. They did the same thing at Iowa State University and, based on [a] photo from their Facebook page, they had a lot of swag to hand out. The photo can be seen at my site.]

      Interestingly they haven’t had any events or updated their Facebook page since a bit over a year ago. Now, suddenly, they’re having a rally at the state Capitol Building the very same day as a major labor protest rally and they have reserved the entire front of the Capitol for it.

      I'm sure they are just an AFP front group.

      "Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
      -- Dr. Peter Venkman


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      by Eclectablog on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 11:41:43 AM PST

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      •  So basically their goal was to limit the ability (0+ / 0-)

        of unions to protest by grabbing the permits first.  You don't need the steps and the lawn for 15 people, or however many it was.  It's a set up all around.

        The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 01:08:25 PM PST

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    •  If someone gave a permit to AfP (0+ / 0-)

      to set up where they knew there was going to be union presence then that person is an idiot. Setting everything else aside, there's a reason that people who issue permits make sure that counter protests are reasonably separated, and the person in charge of that failed miserably in this case.

      The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 11:45:24 AM PST

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      •  They and other conservative groups... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...reserved the lawn far in advance. They knew this was coming before the rally was even planned.

        "Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
        -- Dr. Peter Venkman


        Join me, Anne C. Savage & LOLGOP at Eclectablog.com.

        by Eclectablog on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 11:51:17 AM PST

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        •  In otherwords they planned on inciting violence (0+ / 0-)

          from the beginning.  Fuckwads.

          Any doubt I may have had is gone.  These people wanted to be attacked so they could pretend to play the victim.

          The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 11:53:51 AM PST

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        •  Eclectablog - did the pro-labor groups (0+ / 0-)

          have any permits for any of the space around the capital buildings?

          If there a good diary or press report on what actions the police took at the demonstrations?

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 12:00:10 PM PST

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