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  •  That all sounds good (7+ / 0-)

    but I hope they will a few nickles on the drum for public scientific research.

    Science has become so corporate in the US that it is stalling out for lack of basic research and people with skills in countless areas that don't contribute directly contribute to the bottom line. There is little other than "translational" research done in the US now, and we are running out of basic science to "translate" into profits.

    •  There's more than a few nickels . . . (2+ / 0-)
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      In condensing many pages of numbers to something comprehensible and recognizable, there's a lot of detail that had to be omitted.

      In the lower half of the table above, there's a section for "families, individuals, and businesses."  Wrapped up in that $352 billion is a sizable chunk of $108.5 billion for:

      Enhance and make permanent the research and experimentation tax credit

      "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

      by leftreborn on Wed Dec 12, 2012 at 03:23:38 PM PST

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      •  I think that is for private research (5+ / 0-)

        Private research just doesn't do much basic science. They do product-oriented science.

        •  yes, that's for businesses. Here's info on NIH etc (2+ / 0-)
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          the relevant section for NIH has to do with discretionary spending for HHS in table 13. Obama's budget proposal includes small yearly increases to HHS (possibly in line with inflation, but i'm not sure how they calculated the proposed yearly increases). Anyways, that implies small yearly increases to NIH. Also, Table S-13 proposes small yearly increases to the NSF and the Department of Energy.

          Of the $80B in discretionary spending by HHS, NIH receives some $30B, and it's possible NIH's cut of the pie could increase due to the relatively strong scientific lobby. Even in Obama's FY 2013 budget request, where they proposed a decrease in HHS discretionary spending, the proposed spending for NIH was maintained.

          In summary, in Obama's budget proposal, spending on science would be maintained in terms of inflation adjusted dollars. But I'm not sure how this gets us to his stated goal of spending 3% of GDP on scientific R&D.

          •  I was hesitating to respond on this because I (2+ / 0-)
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            cross-referenced to the WH Sequestration Transparency report.  This is a listing of all government accounts with their status as discretionary or mandatory and sequestrable or exempt.  The NIH is discretionary sequestrable which means that it would be in line for a spending cut under the Budget Control Act.  

            Just as I compiled the table above to outline a summary of the President's budget, another table could be compiled to summarize what programs are eligible for sequestration budget cuts.  That's a deeper level of detail.  For example, the NIH is listed with a $2.5 billion budget reduction over 10 years which sound like a big number but it's minuscule compared to the items in the table above.

            "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

            by leftreborn on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 09:32:51 AM PST

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              I think NASA also gets hit hard

              Under those automatic cuts, which are scheduled to take effect on 2 January, most science agencies would see their 2013 budgets shrink by 8.2% from current levels. For the $31 billion National Institutes of Health, for example, that translates into a $2.5 billion reduction. The $7 billion National Science Foundation would lose $580 million, and the Department of Energy's $4.9 billion Office of Science programs would drop by $423 million.
              http://www.sciencemag.org/...
              •  So that confirms what I saw in the report. (1+ / 0-)
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                $2.5 Billion cut from NIH.

                The biggest cuts are from the budgets for military operations and procurement.  Besides NIH, the biggest non-defense cuts are Special Education, and subsidies for housing rental assistance.  Other forms of public assistance are exempt.  Diplomatic & Consular Programs are cut by
                $1 billion.  NASA has an assortment of cuts that total $1 billion. The Border Patrol is cut by $700 million.  It's a long list.

                "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

                by leftreborn on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 10:55:45 AM PST

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