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  •  I think it was two things (8+ / 0-)

    One was Israel, no question.  He is the grain of truth in the stereotype, I'm sorry to say. But the other was that he's severely conservative on cultural matters; in 2004 people fobbed it off by saying that his wife was but he really wasn't, but I think he was all along.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 09:16:51 AM PST

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    •  Not really knowing (4+ / 0-)

      but personal experience indicates there were a significant number of Jews who became conservative and supporters of 47% type doctrine, which is so opposite Jewish history both recent and ancient.

      I think it's almost a psychological issue,  kind of forgetting where someone came from and sheltering from the real world that happens when life becomes too easy, you become too successful and too cut off at the same time.

      "To recognize error, to cut losses, to alter course, is the most repugnant option in government." Historian Barbara Tuchman

      by Publius2008 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 09:28:25 AM PST

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    •  Yeah (3+ / 0-)
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      I remember when he was the VP nominee there was some discussion about him being a Jew that strictly observed the Shabbat.  (can't work or do anything related to work (like driving, using a light switch, etc) on the sabbath)

      That caused speculation about what other orthodox jewish beliefs he might have, as social positions of the orthodox jewish religion are not exactly liberal.

      His wife is a Modern Orthodox Jew, although he's not come out in public as sharing all of their points of view in the political realm.

      Near as I can tell they try to live as a fairly mainstream Orthodox Jew within the limitations of a modern world and secular states. This is a flavor with a strong zionist component, which is consistent with Lieberman's Israel policies, and neocon attitudes about the middle east.

      I would guess that this philosophy would be more comfortable with the cultural conservatism of the Rs in recent years, than in an increasingly socially liberal Democratic party.

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