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  •  Shareholder rights to Leech! (until drained dry) (6+ / 0-)

    What I don't understand is if contracts are such a great thing to have in rightwing land, why can't groups of employees be allowed to negotiate and have honored a union contract with the employer? The 'fair value' of the work is whatever they negotiate, so it's 'fair market' value.  Negotiated contracts is better than having one person imposing their will and whim upon all the rest working for 'the employer'.  If rightwingers are true to their ideal, all their 'jobs' would be negotiated with a valid iron-clad contract.  I think every state 'right to work' laws should be challenged on the basis that it prevents people from freely associated, assembling and forming groups that legally negotiate for wage & benefit contracts with businesses.  We need to reverse the pressure and force business to justify why they are so opposed to these basic rights to negotiate as equals which our Bill Rights supports.

    When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

    by antirove on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 01:42:02 PM PST

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    •  Why do the Rs hate unions? (3+ / 0-)

      Let us count the ways:
      1. Unions contribute money to D candidates and office holders, and campaign for them, get their members to vote for them, etc. etc.
      2. Workers are a necessary evil - if you have to have them, pay them as little as possible to maximize profit for owners - unions interfere with this important fact
      3. Unions institutionalize bad behaviors like laziness, and sloppyness, and seniority and make it harder to fire employees (particularly for illegal reasons) and exploit them and treat them badly.
      4. Its not fair for the companies that have to work with union labor to compete with companies that don't
      5. Unions are a pain when they fight for safe working conditions, health care and pensions.
      6. Unions are fronts for organized crime and union leaders are all jack booted thugs.
      7. Unions fight to make companies actually pay for experience.
      8. Union members are part of the 47% and the 99% - AKA the Enemy.

    •  You have company on the right. (1+ / 0-)
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      Some libertarians oppose these laws for exactly these reasons.

      •  That is why I 'framed' it that way. I have had (1+ / 0-)
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        some real hard-core righty co-workers. This is the sort of line of argument that I've found succeeds.  It takes them away from arguing I really am trying to represnt some sort of socialistic/communistic worker control of the means of production.

        When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

        by antirove on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 07:47:57 PM PST

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