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  •  more than people assume (12+ / 0-)

    legalization cuts against the normal partisan grain on both sides of the aisle. that's one reason for dems to get out in front on the issue, to deny the GOP at a shot at winning back some of the voters it has alienated with their other craziness of late.

    •  Can you name names? (1+ / 0-)
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      cotterperson

      In the Senate, perhaps Rand Paul, but what about in the House?

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 11:45:22 PM PST

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      •  dana rohrabacher and tom mcclintock (4+ / 0-)

        off the top of my head. tom tancredo found religion (and, presumably, a lobbying paycheck) on the issue after leaving office, and former gov gary johnson of NM was a proponent even before he ran on the libertarian ticket. there is a significant libertarian-minded chunk of the party rank and file, esp. out west, who are pro-legalization or at least in favor of medical cannabis, and the wingnut establishment (eg. glenn beck, bill o'reilly, sarah palin and the koch bros) are starting to make sounds about legalization, framed as always in very anti-state rhetoric.

        i'd look for GOP legalization aisle-crossers in the west and northeast. no idea if they'd be numerous enough to balance out socially conservative dems, though.

    •  while not politicizing it...heehee (2+ / 0-)
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      (cough)

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 11:48:26 PM PST

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    •  I always said if the Republicans were really (7+ / 0-)

      smart (OK, you can stop laughing now) they would jump on the legalization bandwagon. It would be a great way for them to increase their popularity with a lot of the groups they are having problems with and it really isn't inconsistent with any of their core beliefs. There are a fairly substantial number of Republicans who smoke pot.

      If there is no accountability for those who authorized torture, we can no longer say that we are a nation of laws, not men.

      by MikePhoenix on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 12:11:19 AM PST

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    •  An even greater opportunity (0+ / 0-)

      is for the Repubs to push back against their own party's craziness.  Seriously, with 90 percent of the Democratic Party clamoring to maintain their membership in the Flat Earth Club, this could be a big win for the Republicans.  I personally have several conservative friends who are as keen to legalize weed as we are.  

      This in turn should be a clear indication to the Dems to stop taking this anti-rational, public-be-damned page from the Repubs' playbook, but they don't seem to want to do that.  Tell us more what you mean when you say it cuts across both parties' grain to support legalization.  Why?  What is it they gain by so hewing to the crazy status quo?  

      •  not all dems are social liberals (2+ / 0-)
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        and quite a few enjoy using things like the war on drugs to prove to white conservative voters that they're not beholden to blacks, latinos and hippies, but can instead be trusted to be "tough on crime." there are quite a few drug warriors in our party, the past two democratic presidents among them, although obama has made some mumbles about backing away from it lately.

        the GOP, by contrast, has a libertarian wing that sees the drug war as police state federal encroachment, and critiques it from that perspective. not all the GOP, or even most of them, and definitely regionally inflected, but a sizeable chunk of them. i expect it to grow as a proportion in the decade to come, as social conservative silent generation voters are replaced by more libertarian-minded older gen x'ers, in the GOP coalition.

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