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  •  I think if you're going to travel with your (2+ / 0-)
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    happy camper, KenBee

    firearms, you need to be able to lock them in an unattended vehicle, either in the glove box or in another container that is secured to the vehicle. Theft sucks, and sometimes weapon theft can't be prevented, though I think steps should be taken to prevent it.

    An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

    by OllieGarkey on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 08:59:40 PM PST

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    •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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      OllieGarkey, KenBee

      though the glovebox is an unsecure location, and the first place a thief will look. There are purpose made containers that attach to the floor or inside of the trunk.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 09:06:25 PM PST

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    •  Having had a gun stolen from my locked truck.... (3+ / 0-)
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      KenBee, Robobagpiper, happy camper

      while in a locked case cabled to the seat-frame, when I stepped into a bar for 10 minutes to exchange some information with a friend (I drank a coke), I can reliably say that the gun would have been safer on my hip, and I will no longer bow to the hysterical whims of people who don't understand what actual safety and security is.

      Sorry for the run-on sentance.

      •  Give me more information on what happened if (0+ / 0-)

        you would, both ow the thief got your gun, and how the police handled it afterward?

        An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

        by OllieGarkey on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 09:55:32 PM PST

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        •  I was running errands around town (Tucson).... (3+ / 0-)

          and stopped by one of my regular meeting-friends-for-socializing spots.  (A local bar.)  Had to meet a friend to swap some work info and paperwork.  Arizona had recently passed their guns-allowed-in-bars law, but this place was posted "No Guns" in the legally prescribed manner.  I am a regular at this place, and know the staff and owners well, so wished to abide by their preferences.

          Removed gun from holster, locked into case.  Removed holster and shoved under seat.  Went in for a 10-minute convo, got caught a bit longer by a brief rain shower.  Car was parked out of sight of entry, but covered by parking lot security cameras.  Came back out to find my truck window smashed, wallet gone, gun case ripped out and gone (cable still attached to frame).  Called police, they showed up, took report.  Got in touch w/ property owners, but security camera footage was obscured by rain (Arizona monsoon downpour).  

          I got about 2/3rds value back in insurance for gun, case, holster.  Wallet was found in a puddle a day later by maintenance man, all cards, etc still intact.  So, now my stolen gun has been out there for over two years, and the bar was no safer.  May actually be less safe now, as the theft may (I suspect) have been done by a customer.  So, never again.  

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