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  •  I'm speechless (2+ / 0-)
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    For Dean in Dixie, Persiflage

    This is a joke, right?

    What kind of delusional person believes that your first and second points have the slightest chance of ever being attended to? Are you a human? The evidence would seem to indicate not.

    What you're saying, in essence, is: "Are you or someone you know dangerous? Then stop being dangerous."

    Naw, this is a joke. OK, you got me. Funny.

    What is valued is practiced. What is not valued is not practiced. -- Plato

    by RobLewis on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 11:05:06 AM PST

    •  Woooooooooosh. Or, thanks for trolling. nt (0+ / 0-)
      •  No...it wasn't trolling and I think you're WAY (1+ / 0-)
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        RobLewis

        off base with this diary and comment.  Read what you said.  Basically:  If you have, or think you have a mental/emotionl disorder...or if you store your guns with someone like that...or if you own an illegal handgun...don't do anything stupid.  That's great advice to SANE people....who wouldn't do this shit anyway.

        The longer I live, the clearer I perceive how unmatchable a compliment one pays when he says of a man "he has the courage to utter his convictions." Mark Twain

        by Persiflage on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 11:19:53 AM PST

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        •  Don't do anything stupid? Not what I wrote at all. (2+ / 0-)
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          TheHalfrican, Snuffleupagus

          Kindly leave if you're going to repeatedly misstate what I wrote. I'm sure you have no problem with these public service messages when they're about drinking and driving, or about domestic violence, etc.

          •  You don't run this place... (0+ / 0-)

            There's considerable difference between advising someone not to dig where there's a gas line and thinking advising mentally disturbed people about anything is useful.  If they weren't disturbed or deficient or just plain dumb they likely wouldn't need the warning....and they aren't going to get the message.

            If you want to think your words are a public service message, be my guest.  I reserve the right to think it's a hollow, meaningless and silly exercise.    

            You seem to think you're hot shit.  People who disagree with you are trolls...or should just go away.  I have news for you.  But, you wouldn't listen anyway...so why give you a public service announcement.  IFIYGD.

               

            The longer I live, the clearer I perceive how unmatchable a compliment one pays when he says of a man "he has the courage to utter his convictions." Mark Twain

            by Persiflage on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:27:22 PM PST

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        •  I think it's a start in the right direction. (2+ / 0-)
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          TheHalfrican, Otteray Scribe

          You're right about the fact that sane people who would be most likely to agree and follow that advice will do so on their own, and that those who are batshit crazy are not going to follow that advice in any case.

          However, there's a lot of room in between those poles with people who have been inattentive to the issues invoked by the diary.
          This is obvious by looking at the reporting on these kinds of incidents.

          There is one level of total certainty: if one does not own a gun, one cannot take a life or cause an accidental death.
          However, given the facts of our society, we need to wake up to the reaity that we don't have a problem with gun ownership in this country. We have a problem with how we think about guns. This is predominantly (almost exclusively) a male problem.
          We need to be more mindful, collectively and individually.
          This is a small step in that direction.

          You can't make this stuff up.

          by David54 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 11:47:39 AM PST

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    •  yeah (9+ / 0-)

      That would never happen, oh wait . . .

      it already has

      The diarist makes a strong point.  There is a step where we can recognize that guns are a right, without agreeing that everyone should have them.  

      There are steps we can take as a culture, to work towards making sure people with guns are required to frequently demonstrate mental stability and responsibility.  

      "should you be drinking right now?"
      "should you be driving right now?"
      "why do you own so many cats?"
      "why do you rock climb without safety rope?"
      "why are you buying so much Sudafed?"

      There are lots of times when we culturally question perfectly legal activities, because we want to receive an adequate explanation.  The explanation determines our level of intervention.  

      Imparting this attitude about guns would go a long way toward helping gun violence.  

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