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    •  Mine isn't the strawman to worry about (1+ / 0-)
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      What I'm working to check is the false belief by many that if we just overturned the 2nd Amendment, that this tragedy would never happen again.

      Basically the same as when George W. Bush said that the Patriot Act and violating the 4th Amendment would keep us safe from scary Muslims.  Do you buy that too?

      •  Do you even know what a strawman is? (7+ / 0-)

        I doubt it since you replied with another one.

        I'll spell it out for you. Nobody claims that a repeal of the 2nd amendment would prevent something like this (mass killing of school children) from 'ever happening again'.

        However, what people do claim is that a reduced access to guns by the general public would reduce the frequency and severity of this type of mass killing.

        In fact, this is highlighted in spades by comparison to the Chinese rampage which resulted in 0 fatalities.

        Please address what people are saying instead of making stuff up. You might like guns, heck, I like heading out for a round of skeet every now and again myself. However, trotting out NRA talking points is generally not a good method of arguing about valid gun control, and today it's bordering on insensitive.

        As far as your rantings, yes rantings, about turning the US into a totalitarian state, or comparisons to violations of our Bill of Rights...well, that's just downright insulting.

      •  Another strawman. (6+ / 0-)

        Of course it would happen again. The occasional massacre happens in any country.

        But I think it's a fair premise that it wouldn't happen as often, or kill as many people. That's the point of the China comparison: a population that does not have access to advanced weaponry does not see as many of its citizens killed by lunatics and criminals.

        Literally no one believes that "if we just overturned the 2nd Amendment" there would be no gun crimes. That's such a flagrant misstatement that it's well within the range of a deliberate lie.

        "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

        by sagesource on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:42:23 PM PST

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      •  tendentious bullshit n/t (0+ / 0-)

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        by nota bene on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:34:04 PM PST

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