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  •  why should law-abiding Americans be (1+ / 0-)
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    punished for the criminal acts of others?

    LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

    by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 10:10:35 PM PST

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    •  Punished? (4+ / 0-)

      You keep using the word punished.  

      Why would it be "punishment" for a private citizen to not be allowed to own a semi-automatic weapon if tougher regulations meant that all public places are safer?   It's that selfishness which is very off-putting around this issue.

      My kids were not at Newton but all parents know it could happen to their children at any school anyway.  I don't think it would "punish" the owners of semi-automatic weapons by having a mandatory Federal buy-back program if it means every parent--and every child--could have more peace of mind and more safety.  I think that is a worthy public health policy.    

      20 kids slain is 20 kids too many.  How many deaths are acceptable to you before you would agree that semi-automatic weapons should be forbidden? Or do you have a better alternative?  

      I wish your anger was being expressed at the fact that our public policies are broken than being angry at those who want to fix the problem somehow, someway, to save the lives of innocent people who happen to be in a public place.

      As Josh Marshall said, gun-owning advocates should be on the forefront of figuring out how to make our society safer, not fighting those who want to make it safer.  

      More guns and looser gun laws ain't working.   Something has to happen.

      •  Our public policies are broken? (1+ / 0-)
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        Okay. I agree with that.
        We do not esteem the safety of our children enough to protect them.
        Oh, sure we give school districts police forces ...
        police forces aimed at the children inside the building, searching lockers and classrooms and backpacks with drug dogs.
        We confiscate knives and suspend boys for drawing pictures that look like guns and handcuff little girls for writing on the desks.
        We scream "drug free zones" and "zero tolerance"  and we demand children not be allowed to have the asthma inhalers that could save their lives; we strip-search teenage girls because maybe they've got a Tylenol or a Midol in their underwear.
        But we don't fund nurses in every building in every school.
        We will fund our zero-tolerance to the max, including advertising with big bold colorful signs that our schools are "gun-free zones" ... and we do not take seriously the danger posed by publicizing either just what soft targets our schools really are, or rampages like yesterday's celebrated so hard in a media demanding shock that such events are bound to inspire copycats.

        Let me ask you something. What do you remember about Columbine? Whose names do you still recall, from that tragic day when a pair of lunatics attacked their own school? Or from the day the Alfred P. Murrah building was blown to smithereens when a lunatic attacked a federal building and blew up children in the daycare center? Or the day a lunatic attacked Virginia Tech? Or the day a lunatic attacked a congresswoman's event at a Tucson mall?
        The names of the victims, or the names of the criminals who killed so many innocent people, including children, on those days?

        yes. Our public policies are broken.

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:03:44 AM PST

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