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  •  I want him to say "Now is the time to talk as a (30+ / 0-)

    nation about how we're going to make sure that children don't fear for their lives when they go to school.  That people don't fear for their lives when they go to the mall or to see a movie.  That now is the time to ensure that 90,000 people don't die from gun violence every year in this country.  Our founders who wrote the Constitution did not mean for us to never discuss responsibilities of safety and security when those responsibilities fall upon us as a society.  Our founders wrote a living document that could be interpreted and modified as necessary to meet the needs of the country.  Our country now needs us to discuss what role gun ownership rights should play in this country and what we can do to ensure life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are not abridged as we try and deal with tragedies like this morning at the Connecticut school."

    My comments about the fiscal cliff are related to how that's sucking all the oxygen from the rooms of Congress and the White House, but there are other issues that are serious and need to be addressed.  We need to stop dragging out the fiscal cliff nonsense, waiting for more people to be hurt from job losses, from losing unemployment, from having companies stop providing health care because they fear the expenses, more political points to be scored.  We need to stop the fear and uncertainty (and 90% comes from Republicans who believe its in their interest to sow fear and doubt) so that we can get to issues like gun control, like ending wars, like strengthening the economy, like strengthening and enforcing laws, etc, etc,.

    •  thanks, ColoTim. (5+ / 0-)
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    •  Ok, gotcha (9+ / 0-)

      I agree with most of what you said. But I think the president's statement today struck the right tone. I hope that he will make good on his promise to take action to prevent repeat occurrences, with stricter gun control laws as well as better treatment for mental health and better education and opportunity so people are less likely to turn to crime.

    •  That would be an excellent (1+ / 0-)
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      statement for him to make.  Sounds just like something he would say.

      The most violent element in society is ignorance.

      by Mr MadAsHell on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 12:47:09 PM PST

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    •  Well said, Tim, I think we need to talk about it (1+ / 0-)
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      and about helping troubled family members obtain mental health services or help with an addiction or whatever the underlying factors are leading to these killings and tragedies.  

      We need to be able to better spot and help those who are at risk for committing acts of violence and going on shooting sprees. Granted, that is very difficult to do but often after these tragedies, a coworker, friend or family member says they knew the loved one was very angry and very unstable and very distraught

      We need to talk about a culture filled with violence and also about learning appropriate coping skills ,...coping skills that prevent tragedies..coping skills where people do not resort to violence but instead get help or learn how not to let their rage turn into violence.

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      by wishingwell on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:11:31 PM PST

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      •  fine and dandy (3+ / 0-)
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        as regards to mental health but while we're working on the culture of violence how about doing something about the fucking semiautomatic, automatic or whatever these killing machine guns are called, banned and illegal. Same with gun shows get rid of them.. What purpose do the have other then killing lot's of people quickly? Protection? Gimmie a break with this crap about guns don't kill people. Arming ourselves to the teeth just escalates the potential for carnage.  

        As for mental health Lot's of people with mental illness do not shot 28 children and adults. I'm not to comfortable about identifying people who may have mental health  problems. What are you going to do to these you profile as potential psycho killers? Drug them up, commit them? That seems more unconstitutional then restricting people's right to bear any fucking giant gun, weapon they want. Profiling people for future crimes they may commit is not a good idea.

        Seems to me the first step would be control the fucking gun sales, regulate the hell out of gun purchases and what kind of guns are allowed.. make the bullets incredibly expensive. Who the hell sane or crazy needs a big fucking semi automatic rifle or any of these weapons of mass killing?  

        What's sane about these guns or the people who buy them? I think the fact that this culture is so bloody violent is all the more reason to keep weapons like this one used today out of peoples hands. Sure they exist and people will find them if they want but jeeze at least this would slow them down a bit. Blaming people with mental problems on a society this dysfunctional and cruel is as bad as saying guns don't kill.  

           

      •  While we're "talking" (1+ / 0-)
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        People are dying.  Talk solves nothing.  It's time for action.  Get petitions going in all 50 states to get assault weapon ban referenda on the ballot.

        TEA PARTIES: Something little girls do with their imaginary friends.
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        by flygrrl on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:20:50 PM PST

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        •  Exactly but in this case, the mother legally owned (0+ / 0-)

          all of these handguns. Assault weapons were not used, I do not believe? Why did this woman own all of these guns, something like 5 guns? In one household?  Did she inherit them like a cousin of mine or was she a collector?  If she knew her son had serious problems as the brother is telling the police now...why so many guns in her household?  I can see people owning one or two hunting rifles and maybe a handgun but apparently this lady owned a half dozen guns.

          Odd !

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          by wishingwell on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 05:05:51 AM PST

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