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  •  Buy American - Buy UAW (3+ / 0-)
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    I'm sorry but real Democrats will support our brothers and sisters in the UAW.  I don't understand buying Toyota or Honda that are built in right to work states that gut the middle class.  I have bought nothing but Fords ... built by the UAW since 1991.  I suggest putting your wallet where your mouths are.

    So thank  you for going for the Lincoln.  You Honda/Toyota drivers, next time you bemoan the shrinking middle class just STFU.  Sorry to be so harsh.

    •  I've had American cars in the past from all (0+ / 0-)

      3 and they've all been pieces of shit. I don't care if they're more reliable now - they have permanently lost my trust and lost me as a customer.

      I bought a new car in October and didn't even waste my time looking at the big 3. I'm not spending that kind of money on something that I don't trust. I ended up with an Acura TSX, built in Japan, and couldn't be happier.

      Besides, what about the workers at the US ports that have to unload the vehicles off the boat and process them? Those jobs would disappear if we all stopped buying foreign-built cars. I'm also sure that the construction workers who build Honda, Toyota, VW, Nissan, etc, dealerships and the mechanics who work there are glad people are buying those cars too.

      "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

      by yg17 on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 04:03:19 PM PST

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      •  Same here... (0+ / 0-)

        Growing up, with two exceptions, my parents (die hard democrats) only bought American cars. They broke and broke and broke. Always in the shop. They haven't bought an American car since and I doubt they ever will.

        My first two cars were American (Chevy Corsica and Dodge Neon).  The Neon was ok (if mediocre) the Corsica was brutal. It broke and broke and nearly killed me (when the brakes just randomly went out). I've considered buying American with the last few cars we've purchased, but I just can't do it. In most cases a quick flip through consumer reports is all I need to send me running back to Honda or Acura. Maybe when there are 10 years of positive safety and reliability figures I'll consider an American car. But no sooner.

        •  Yes - I hear that all the time about American cars (0+ / 0-)

          Thing is that American cars are now either rated the same or better than the non-union built in the south foreign cars that everyone raves about.

          So let's move on from the 70's and 80's and see what life is like now in the 21st century.  The middle class and your brothers and sisters in organized labor will thank you.

    •  That was a factor in getting my Magnum (0+ / 0-)

      even though it was used.  Still, not only is the company at least American (turns out the car was made in Canada) but more importantly, the tires on it, and recommended for it, are made-in-Alabama Goodyears.  Sure that same plant mistreated Lily Ledbetter to historical proportions but at least the tires support the 1,000 or so union workers there.

      “Nice country you got here. Shame if something were to happen to it” --the GOP philosophy to governing as described by Paul Krugman

      by dwayne on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 04:18:36 PM PST

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    •  I really feel for you on this (0+ / 0-)

      But I have never bought a new car in my life,  and years ago bemoaned that nothing Detroit put out was as tough and reliable as a used Volvo.  I do believe Detroit is now building much better machinery,  but management led the industry astray for many a year before they woke up and smelled the (world) coffee.

      I still have my '53 Chrysler M-37 military Power Wagon, so I know what Detroit can build when it does the right thing.

      don't always believe what you think

      by claude on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 05:45:22 PM PST

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    •  I hear you and have struggled w/ this. (0+ / 0-)

      As a purchaser and owner of 6 new Hondas over the years (including my wife's and my first car purchased together, an '88 Accord built in OH and in which we brought home our first daughter) I hear this comment loud and clear.  

      The GM plant near OKC which was built while I was in high school was closed down several years ago (as I recall, it had the misfortune of building large trucks and SUVs at a time when gas prices were skyrocketing, then it got partially hit by a tornado).  This certainly didn't help the economy of central OK.

      We did buy two new Chevy APV minivans during our time (I'm sure at least in part because they reminded me of the Star Trek (original) shuttle vehicle), with which we were somewhat pleased.  They needed more repairs than I'd had with the Hondas and I hadn't been happy w/ the dealers we worked with.

      We tried a Toyota Sienna in there as well and the damned eternally-squeaking brakes killed me on them.  Once our girls got old enough for vehicles (we're in OK, there's little public transportation to speak of) I wanted reliability and stuck w/ what I'd had good track record with...back to the big H(onda).  I even found a dealer I liked when I got my '03 Civic Hybrid (still have it--135k so far) and have been back ever (3x) since (and planning for another trip next summer).

      I have lots of concern that even buying a nominally "American" car really means one built mostly (completely?) in Canada or Mexico.  I'm sticking w/ the Hondas for my girls.  But I have already talked to my wife about test-driving a Chevy Volt as a future replacement for my Hybrid in a couple of years....  The strong endorsements I keep hearing from Volt drivers is encouraging, I must say, and hope they continue.

      I guess all I can say is that it's hard to find a perfect answer.

      "Push the button, Max!" Jack Lemmon as Professor Fate, The Great Race

      by bartcopfan on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 09:43:25 AM PST

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