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  •  shooter took his older NJ brother's ID, which (6+ / 0-)

    caused the confusion for LEOs also, how did a 20 year old get access to the weapons

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:37:54 PM PST

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    •  If the weapons were stolen (4+ / 0-)
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      and it looks like they had to be - then the owners should be sued for the lifetime earnings of every dead individual killed with those weapons. Also for the full cost of the law enforcement response and any other incidental costs. The owners did not show the necessary care to lock up the weapons and control their use.

      Gun owners need to be held responsible.

      The US Supreme Court has by its actions and rhetoric has ceased to be legitimate. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

      by Rick B on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:01:59 PM PST

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      •  No current law for that I am aware of. (0+ / 0-)

        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 04:15:12 PM PST

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        •  What's the common law on ownership (1+ / 0-)
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          of dangerous items? What is the law that makes the owner of a swimming pool responsible for the death or drowning of someone who gets over a fence and is injured or killed in the pool?

          Are guns an attractive nuisance? Legally? I think that's the term I was looking for.

          I'm no lawyer, but I'll bet there is a great deal of law out there that could be imaginatively applied to this situation.

          And if the shooter is underage to buy the weapons, who let him get them? His mother is apparently dead, but his father is not. There should at least be an estate to go after.

          The US Supreme Court has by its actions and rhetoric has ceased to be legitimate. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

          by Rick B on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 05:28:05 PM PST

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          •  Well, I'm no lawyer either, so that's why I cannot (0+ / 0-)

            begin to answer this:)  

            It's an interesting question, though.

            202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

            by cany on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 06:33:36 PM PST

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      •  It appears the weapons were registered in (0+ / 0-)

        the mother's name.  Early reporting, so it may be wrong.

        Also, the M-4 Bushmaster was found in the trunk of the car, not at the scene of the suicide, so it may not have been used in the crimes.  Again, early reporting.

      •  The weapons were the (1+ / 0-)
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        mother's.  All legally registered.  The mother was killed at her home here in Newtown.  The father lives in Stamford I believe.  The mother was a helper/ teacher's aide  and it was her classs he attacked.

        The list of dead children, teachers will be available tomorrow AM.

        Adam was known as a  "troubled" youth.

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