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  •  You're too funny (in an very sad way).... (2+ / 0-)

    If you have an intruder (could be killer as far as you know) or thief show up at your house (or apartment or whatever), are you going to: A) tell them to leave or you'll call 911; B) tell them to take everything you want, just don't hurt me; C) curl up in the corner like an pathetic little man (your words).

    I have an choice to somewhat determine what would happen to me in an situation like this - I choose to have my 2nd amendment right as an option.

    How does my choice have anything to do with "living with metal detectors in schools from now on"? It doesn't.

    How do you think you know what I'm scared of? You have no clue dude

    •  You said some of what scares you (3+ / 0-)

      In your original post, as I listed. Now I'm sure that there are many many more that requires you to have an unlicensed arsenal at your suburban home, but I can only go by what you say.

      The fact is, you've bought the NRA's propaganda in toto and have become a semi-useful tool for them by trolling for them here, wittingly or not.

      Remind me again why your guns can't be registered?

    •  let me ask you this> (3+ / 0-)

      have you ever had an intruder/attempted break-in?

      has a violent crime ever happened on your property or home?

      have you ever been physically threatened at home?

      all three of the above have happened to me, so please stop pretending that you are the only person who might need to be concerned about safety.  

      •  bluedavid: YES, 1987, Big Spring, Texas (2+ / 0-)

        man came in through the crawlspace access I didn't know was in my kitchen (rented house I'd just moved into literally the day before) and stole my silverware.  While I, and my kids,  slept in the single bedroom, less than 20 feet away. I woke at the noise and saw him. We had a night light for my kids to find the bathroom by, because this house was unfamiliar.

        I had been a firearms instructor and security police / law enforcement specialist, and was qualified expert with a pistol in the Air Force a few years before -- but I did not own a firearm at that time, and nor could I afford to purchase one. We did not sleep another night in that house.

        He lived down the block. He helped me unload my refrigerator from my pickup to move into the house. Laughed and bragged about being on parole....and when I checked at the courthouse, so he was. For murder.

        It's not just the boondocks that are dangerous.

         

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 08:34:20 PM PST

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      •  OK..... (2+ / 0-)

        Yes

        Yes

        Sort of yes - I was told by an acquaintance that him and his buddies were going to come fuck me up. They didn't follow thru though.

        I could care less how you deal with (or don't) your own & your familiy's safety and well being, or how you think I should take care of mine - you know nothing about me or my situation. I will handle mine & my family's safety as I choose to do.

        •  YOU ARE NOT AN ISLAND (0+ / 0-)

          the fucking gun policies that you support have vast effects on other people so drop this 'I WILL HANDLE MINE AND MY FAMILY'S SAFETY AS I CHOOSE TO DO' bullshit and accept that what you do and the weapons you own and the policies you advocate continuing HAVE AN EFFECT ON YOUR NEIGHBORS!

          i mean, no one should live in fear, and i feel sorry for you if you do.  however, lots of ppl are on the receiving ends of threats like 'i'm going to fuck you up'.  i mean, i literally couldn't count how many times i have been threatened in that way.

          something more visceral to me--  being followed into my building by someone who tried to force their way into my apt and then banged on my door screaming 'you wanna fuck?  you wanna fuck?' until i called the cops;  having a teenager shot to death on my stoop; a grandfather around the corner trying to break up a fight between two young men that he didn't realize was a plain-clothes drug bust (he was shot to death)...  

          do i live in a completely safe place?  no.  do i know that an increase in guns in my neighborhood would make the area less safe?  yes.  am i willing to take my neighbors into consideration when deciding how best to remain safe and/or improve safety in the neighborhood?  ABSOLUTELY.

    •  Gee (2+ / 0-)
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      fisheye, radical simplicity

      You just indicated that you're scared of intruders (could-be killers!) or thieves.  

      I hope that in that little rural berg the townspeople don't know about your arsenal because you'll be the first person to be robbed.  Nothing is easier to fence on the black market than guns.

      you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

      by Dem Beans on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 07:57:23 PM PST

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    •  Straw arguments, dude (1+ / 0-)
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      Most intruders wait until a homeowner is not home to steal stuff. They don't want a confrontation -- just something to sell. Also, there is no government plan anywhere to confiscate legally purchased guns. The day someone takes your gun, PUHLEASE, let everyone on DKos know about it. Not going to happen.

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 08:38:03 PM PST

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      •  I've already given you the confiscation link. (2+ / 0-)

        It's still true no matter how many times you say it can't happen.

        And why in the hell would I let you decide for me whether I want to take the chance "they" are not wanting an confrontation, but to only steal from me? It is my home, my family, & my belongings, so I think I'll decide for myself how I want to protect each of those.

    •  Your describing a fantasy (0+ / 0-)

      that has no credibility in the real world.

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