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  •  Tell me this.... (2+ / 0-)

    If guns already had to be registered, what affect would it have had on what happened in CT today?

    •  If that gun registration came with legal (8+ / 0-)

      provisions holding the registered culpable when THEIR weapon is used in a crime, it would probably cause some pause for those people that have persons in the household with anger or perhaps mental instability issues.

      Remember, many advocate that guns should be loaded and ready to go in an instant and don't buy the gun locker or need to disassemble or separate ammo from guns safety recommendations. They advocate for loaded, ready-t0-use at a moment's notice gun.

      So it's MORE than just registration for EVERY gun. It's about attaching a responsibility to that registration that is punitive and meaningful.

      For Christ's sake, there are areas where parents are held legally responsible for their kids not going to school. Making that same gun-owning parent responsible for a gun THEY own is a no-brainer to me.

      202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

      by cany on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 07:27:45 PM PST

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      •  OK, please answer this.... (1+ / 0-)
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        The last I heard about CT today is that the Mother owned (legally) the weapons that her son used to murder the kids & adults. What difference would it have made today if they were registered to her? What difference would it have  even made if they were registered to him?

        I agree that many things need to happen to try and change the way our society is, and does.

        •  She's dead, so it wouldn't make any difference. (2+ / 0-)
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          But surely I needn't remind you about kids that took a weapon from home to school or wherever and another child (or children) were shot. In THAT case, the parents would face charges.

          If a kid can get TO the gun, the gun is obviously not secured, right?

          If a parent is going to have a gun in the house, the gun needs to be secured. Period.

          202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

          by cany on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 08:29:55 PM PST

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          •  I know - and that's what I was asking about (2+ / 0-)
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            in my original post about this - and registration would not have had any effect at all, which is what I was getting at.

            So to you the Mother in this case should have been responsible if he hadn't have shot her? Even so, he still would have done what he did even if the Mother had to have registered the guns (which she may have had to in CT anyway - not sure of their laws).

            •  If the weapons were stored properly, he wouldn't (1+ / 0-)
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              have been ABLE to do what he did, right?

              And yes, had she lived, she should be (under my proposed rules) liable legally and financially.

              202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

              by cany on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 10:59:16 PM PST

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      •  Exactly 'punitive and meaningful' (3+ / 0-)
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        sethtriggs, indianobserver, ThomJeff

        I believe every gun should be registered, but with the 'punitive and meaningful' responsibility being legal liability.  Make EVERY gun owner carry an insurance policy for civil liability.  If the gun is used in a crime the insurance companies have to pay out to the victims.  Tie that liability to everything from credit rating to mortgages and soon the $$ cost to own a gun would lower ownership rates.

        This would make it so if you wanted a loan or bought a gun you would have $$ coming out of your pocket.

        Don't change the 2nd just attach some conditions via $ liability.

        FYI I am a gun owner and would agree to this in a heartbeat.

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