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  •  explain? hmm... (1+ / 0-)
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    Please note, I am not debating the issue, but I will attempt to explain parts of it.

    How much more of this can we take? Please explain.
    We should not have to  take any of it.  Not one bit.  But...

    But there is a reason for much of this and it can be placed at the feet and on the hands of liberals and conservatives alike.  What is this cause I am speaking of?  

    Personal responsibility.  Plain and simple.

    As a gun owner, I take that responsibility very highly (not the right word, but still shocked by the news of the day).  Yes, I own multiple weapons, from guns to swords and knives.  Am I a violent person?  No, I don't hunt, but I know how to handles weapons and how to take care of them.  Just as a dull knife is more dangerous than a sharp one, so too is a person with a gun that thinks they are a toy.  It is my responsibility to keep my blades sharp, and to keep the guns stored properly and safely.  Can I use a gun?  Yes, if I had to.  Would I use it?  Not unless it was the last resort.  That is part of the responsibility.  That is the way I was raised and taught.  And that there are consequences for my actions.  My right to own a gun is dependent on my responsibility in society.

    And there is the part that we as a society fail.  We are teaching our children there is no responsibility for our actions.  Rape?  It is her fault for wearing the short skirt.  Or the child's fault for being so trusting (no, I do not want to talk about it any more).  And it is not the murderer's fault for killing that person during the robbery so lets only give him 7 years for killing 2 people.  I am sorry that there are people here who believe everyone in prison is innocent and that the death penalty is too harsh.  

    But I too have a question:  If you knew that you would die for taking another human life, would you think twice before doing it?

    We, as a society, have been doing away with personal responsibility and it is coming back home to roost.  Actions have consequences and we need to learn that there is a bill to pay for everything.

    Tonight will be a rough night, one of praying and thinking, trying to make sense of tragedy, and I only hope we can come out stronger for it.


    ''The guarding of military and diplomatic secrets at the expense of informed representative government provides no real security for our Republic.'' - Justice Hugo L. Black of the Supreme Court

    by geekydee on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 08:20:42 PM PST

    •  And the mentally ill? (2+ / 0-)
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      How are they going to take 'personal responsibility' for their actions?

      Do you think Jared Loughner is sitting around in jail bemoaning his lack of personal responsibility?  Or does he still not understand what he did or why he did it?

      Why is it that people who have severe personality disorders find it so easy to get so many deadly firearms?

      Where is our collective personal responsibility to ensure that children aren't executed in their kindergarten class?

      you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

      by Dem Beans on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 08:41:13 PM PST

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      •  How? As a society. (2+ / 0-)
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        That is how, we need to take responsibility for our own actions and, if needs be, become our brother's (or sister's) keeper.  Just as we do not let biting and scratching mountain lions in petting zoo's, so must we keep those who are a danger to themselves and society from acting on those same impulses and harming others.  Sorry for the rantishness of this, but I am somewhat shell-shocked still by the news.

        As to the later questions you pose, that is what honest dialog is for.  And just as it your choice to choose to be religious or not, ask the Jews in Israel or the Sunnis in the Middle East or the Palestinians in Gaza what happens if if bow to the pressure to just get along.  Would you sit with Jared in his cell in solidarity?  Or let your wife or child do the same?

        And for the final question, would  you trust a government that had ALL the guns?

        And to answer why and where do these whackjobs have and get guns, if there were personal responsibility, would this be an issue?  A responsible person would not let someone like that have a gun, just as a child would not let an elderly parent with delusional thinking have one...

        We, as a society, must take RESPONSIBILITY
        and as  member of society, each of us must take a personal responsibility as our own share.

        ''The guarding of military and diplomatic secrets at the expense of informed representative government provides no real security for our Republic.'' - Justice Hugo L. Black of the Supreme Court

        by geekydee on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 09:11:24 PM PST

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