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    The anti-choice and pro-choice sides are deeply entrenched and have little common ground, because they're operating from completely different core values. What little common ground might exist becomes nearly impossible to find because the discussion becomes too heated too quickly.

    The same goes for gun rights v. gun control.

    ‎"Masculinity is not something given to you, but something you gain. And you gain it by winning small battles with honor." - Norman Mailer
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    by maxomai on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 06:36:34 AM PST

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    •  I think they've also put on blinders (3+ / 0-)
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      in that all of the focus is on specific 'types' of weapons, or whether or not to give access to weapons to specific people.

      The problem is not specific guns or specific people. It's people who are, perhaps only temporarily, in a specific frame of mind having access while in that frame of mind.

      I think addressing that requires a far different approach to 'control' than we currently attempt.

      •  Hm. (1+ / 0-)
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        That's a thorny problem.

        Do you have anything in mind?

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        by maxomai on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 08:16:41 AM PST

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        •  I've made suggestions in several comments (1+ / 0-)
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          Along the lines of actual well-regulated militia armouries and armourers with whom you would check in and check out weapons at the time of use.  The armourers would have the discretion to ask police to speak with people who appear to be acting erratically or are requesting weapon checkouts for reasons that don't jibe with their stated purpose.  A linked database would also prevent people from checking out multiple weapons at the same time, requiring you to return other checked out weapons for storage before taking out different ones.

          Accommodations could be made for multiple use on specific licensed firing ranges, and you could even check out state-owned weapons such as hunting rifles without having to purchase them yourself.

          •  So no concealed carry, no home defense? (0+ / 0-)

            That's going to face bitter resistance indeed.

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            by maxomai on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 09:52:32 AM PST

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            •  Well, there's always bitter resistance. (1+ / 0-)
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              But for concealed carry, I'd require a far higher standard of training and monitoring than is currently required.  Essentially, I would hold out for you'd have to actually be an active militia member who could serve as an auxiliary police officer.

              I've suggested that home defense would have to be a single 'check out' of a weapon that would have to remain at the home, and a serious gun safe as well as other oversight.  Perhaps random checks along the lines of drug checks, such that if you aren't found to be keeping your weapon in the gun safe, or if it's missing, your 'license' is suspended for some period, 6 months or a year, say.

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