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  •  Plus, this incident shows (0+ / 0-)

    why gun control doesn't work - all of these guns were "legal" - but the vaunted gun community let us down by letting them get into the wrong hands

    •  They may be legal now, but they don't have to be (2+ / 0-)
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      in the future. No one needs a semi-automatic handgun with a 15-round clip. (With the possible exception of law enforcement) handguns should automatically lock after each shot, then need to be unlocked and cocked to shoot again. Semi-automatic rifles and shotguns for hunting should be limited to four rounds in the magazine or clip. Plus other restrictions on who can purchase and possess guns, gun sales, ammunition, etc.

      •  There are 300 or 400 million (0+ / 0-)

        guns in the country - there's essentially no way to undo that w/o going all North Korea type facist.

        The solution is not gun regulations, it's changing the acceptance of gun culture - one to get things to start turning in that respect is to at least stop glorifying guns on sites like Daily Kos - if we can't even do that, how can we expect other things that are doable right now (e.g., the POTUS to use his "bully pulpit" to speak out) will happen.

        And yes, it will be a long hard slog - but hey, in my lifetime cigarettes went from being glamorous to more or less being a pariah.

        Guns are more entrenched so it will take longer than that, but we have to start sometime.  Ideally yesterday, but since that's not possible how about today?

      •  Agree (1+ / 0-)
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        No private citizen needs semi-automatic or automatic rifles.

        Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

        by Betty Pinson on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 12:54:35 PM PST

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        •  Those sound like reasonable restrictions (0+ / 0-)

          But how do you respond to the argument that given how many are already out there, law-abiding citizens will be at a disadvantage compared to criminals if they are unable to get them?

          I don't necessarily subscribe to that viewpoint, but I never know how to refute in when talking to people who oppose gun restrictions.

          •  Somewhat dated on weapons public policy (1+ / 0-)
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            I used to be quite active with the Brady group in the 90's, so I'm not up to speed on what has been proposed.  They've spent decades working on these issues.

            Their web site may be a good resource as they were always good on policy and information.

            Link

            Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

            by Betty Pinson on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 01:51:23 PM PST

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