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  •  Welcome back! (Exams over?) (11+ / 0-)

    I want Patrick to appoint someone who wouldn't be a caretaker, but who could be strong enough to clear the field  and avoid a messy primary (and win the general).

    And I'm still pissed at Meeham because of this.

    •  Yeah, I'm not crazy about Meehan (0+ / 0-)

      I think Gov. Patrick would have to appoint a strong ally of Sen. Kerry who is popular and would be hard to run against. Barring Vicki Kennedy, that person might be Ayanna Pressley -- but I'm sure that the likes of Reps. Capuano, Lynch, and Markey would cry foul over being passed over for a Boston city councilor (even if Pressley does represent a larger constituency than any of them do). Pressley might clear the field, and Patrick might walk away looking pretty smart, but I think it would engender at least as much resentment toward him from ambitious members of the congressional delegation as appointing Capuano, Lynch (ha), or Markey would.

      My guess is Patrick does appoint a placeholder, and there is a contested primary for the special election.

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      by SaoMagnifico on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 02:15:50 PM PST

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      •  If you don't play along with the machine... (4+ / 0-)
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        the machine will sit out and figure they'll just take Brown on again in 2014.  

        We NEED to clear the field and keep everybody happy some how - otherwise we'll spend millions against each other while Brown raises millions to build his warchest.  

        Hell can we rat fuck and run a Dem in the Repub primary against Brown?

        They have the billionaires, We have the Big Dog!

        by Jacoby Jonze on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 02:30:59 PM PST

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        •  That's why Pressley is probably my preference (0+ / 0-)

          I think she'd be a bit less strong in the general against someone with suburban appeal -- not weak, per se, but not as strong as a talented non-Boston Democrat might be -- but I still think she'd win. And I think if she were appointed, she'd have strong support from her mentor and former boss, Sen. Kerry, as well as from Mayor Menino's political machine and from women's groups, which would basically make her bulletproof against a primary challenge. Plus Gov. Patrick wouldn't be in the position of choosing one congressman over another for the appointment.

          I find Massachusetts statewide officials except for Patrick himself to be incredibly meh and have no interest in seeing any of them in higher office. Of course, I don't have a lot of influence on Patrick's thinking.

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          by SaoMagnifico on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 02:37:03 PM PST

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        •  I don't think we'll raise millions so easily. (1+ / 0-)
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          lots of people happily donated to Warren, and were eager to get rid of Brown. This is an unforced error gift to the GOP. People are gonna be less enthusiastic to reward that sort of thing with money.

          •  I think Rep. Markey... (0+ / 0-)

            Would get a fair amount of support. But he opted out of the special election for Ted Kennedy's seat because he couldn't clear the field, and if he can't get an appointment outright this time or clear the field if a placeholder is named, I'm not sure he has the fire in the belly to deal with a contested -- perhaps even chaotic -- primary.

            If Gov. Patrick doesn't appoint a strong Democrat who isn't just a placeholder -- I like Pressley, as I've mentioned, though of course the strongest possible appointee would be Patrick himself -- then I do hope Markey runs. But I don't know if Markey wants to end up running against Rep. Capuano; if Markey and Capuano are both in, Rep. Lynch may run, hoping Markey and Capuano split the progressive vote to give him a shot at sneaking through; if there are two or three members of Congress in the race, a Democrat from the business community and/or someone like Carmen Ortiz who is not an "insider" may see an opportunity to run themselves; if the field looks big enough that name recognition alone could be the key to victory, a statewide elected official like Treasurer Grossman, Lt. Gov. Murray, or Atty. Gen. Coakley (ugh) could enter as well.

            I'm hoping for a strong appointee. I just don't see how the field clears without one. There are a lot of Democrats in Massachusetts, and a lot of them are going to see this as perhaps their only good chance for a long while to move up.

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            by SaoMagnifico on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 01:35:44 AM PST

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          •  Or don't have any more $$ to give (0+ / 0-)

            The last election was very expensive for lots of folks.  I know we don't have another penny to donate to any candidate for any race.  Tapped out.  Just don't have it.  .

    •  Ha ha ha. He has his (1+ / 0-)
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      admin exam on Monday.

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