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  •  Vicki Kennedy has been mentioned to fill (5+ / 0-)

    the seat on a temporary basis. That is, after Kerry resigns, there has to be an interm choice until the election is held. There are reports that Patrick is considering Kennedy for that role.

    I dont think she would run in the special election, and it's unclear to me if the interim appointee is even allowed to run in the special.

    As far as Patrick, I think he would run for the seat in 2014 if Brown won the special. I think that's something that would actually prevent Brown from running. He would have to run in the special, and then assuming he won, face Deval Patrick in a year and half in the 2014 general.

    Instead, Brown could run for an open governor's seat in 2014, and probably win.

    •  Don't see Vicki as a viable candidate (4+ / 0-)

      I respect her enormously but she's never run for anything. Brown, or whoever, will ask voters "What's her basis other than 'Ted's widow'?"

      Brown probably could win the governor's seat. Then he'd actually have to run the state.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 04:57:51 PM PST

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      •  Totally Agree (2+ / 0-)
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        What has she done to deserve a nomination for Senate? And if she wants it, why do I  never see her on local tv? Most people here have no idea who she really is or what her political skills and outlook are. Bad choice!

      •  Agreed. She actually hurt Coakley (0+ / 0-)

        I don't live in Mass, but IIRC, when she endorsed Coakley for "Teddy's Seat", Brown jumped all over it and said something about how it was the people's seat, not Ted Kennedy's.  I believe this had some success in stirring up resentment against the Kennedys, and by extension, Coakley.  I grew up in MA, and my impression is that there was more of a love/hate relationship with the Kennedy family there than outsiders may realize, IMHO.  The Kennedy name can be a plus, but it can also backfire and make you look entitled and out of touch.

        •  Definitely some resentment toward Kennedys (1+ / 0-)
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          Especially among Reagan Democrat types, blue-collar townie folks. Brown played that one well.

          But Vicki is not to blame for Coakley's loss. If Vicki said that, and Brown had his clever line, and Coakley even tried to run a competent campaign, she would have won.

          Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

          by fenway49 on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 06:26:18 PM PST

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          •  I'm not blaming Vicki. (1+ / 0-)
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            "Lazy Martha" was going down no matter what after that stinker of a campaign.  I'm just saying it seemed to have a measurable negative effect which might have mattered in a closer race.

            It could be that, this time around, her endorsement would be a positive.  Since it would be some non-Kennedy running  Kerry's former seat, there'd be no direct association with the family, and no basis for Brown to claim that they were trying to prolong their dynasty or anything like that (not that he wouldn't try).

            IMHO you were spot on with your assessment of the anti-Kennedy types.  Sounds a lot like many of the people I grew up with in Newton (are there any blue-collar neighborhoods left there these days?).

            •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

              The Lake and Upper Falls, and some parts of West Newton remain fairly blue collar. Lots of Brown signs in Upper Falls this year. I always get a kick out of the guys at the DD on Watertown St and Adams, and they can be a decent political barometer of the neighborhood.

              In a recent discussion about upcoming override votes, a resident of Nonantum (a liberal activist) noted that people there genuinely feel strapped for cash and will tend to oppose the overrides. A lot of opposition there to tax increases for the new NNHS.

              My view on Vicki is that it will make little difference either way this time. I don't see undecided voters rallying to the Dems based on her endorsement, nor do I see the level of resentment that surfaced in 2009-10.

              Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

              by fenway49 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:41:32 AM PST

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    •  Is Patrick more popular now? (0+ / 0-)

      I remember at first (I had left MA by then but heard from others) that Patrick went through some rough patches as governor.  Has he overcome those?

      "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

      by auron renouille on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 08:34:41 PM PST

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      •  Yes he is (2+ / 0-)
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        Patrick absolutely had a tough year or two when first elected. He was very good on the issues but a poor administrator. That has long since changed and was, in fact, reelected by a wide margin. I believe that right now he would be our strongest candidate in a special Senate election. None of the others has ever won a statewide race.

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