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  •  If it were not for antidepresents I would have (2+ / 0-)
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    committed suicide years ago. The best treatment combines meds with therapy. But who pays for therapy. If you have depression or biploar disorder for therapy to be effective it must be long term. A year or more. I will not have anything resembling a firearm in my house unless you have a badge. But right now that is a Choice I make, not a condition imposed upon me. And it should be a condition imposed on me. I should not have the right to own a firearm. But there is no enforcement. Such a system may discourage people from seeking help. And there is no funding for treatment or record keeping. And one of the arguments against health care reform was that it was a government intrusion on what should be a private matter. Many of the same people who oppose gun control also oppose health care reform.

    I would also say that mental health issues are never fully resolved. So that ban would have to be permanent. My depression will never be cured. So I live my life in such a way as to not make things worse. So I do not use alcohol, or recreational drugs. I watch my diet. But I can not afford the copays for regular therapy. $30.00/visit weekly I just can not afford. I see my psychiatrist 4 times a year for meds. The side effects can be bad and make things worse until you find a med that works. And just because a med works today does not mean it will still work 6 months from now. It is easier to take guns off the street than it is to treat the mentally ill with any kind of safe cure rate.

    So I am willing to give up part of my private life to keep people like me from getting guns. But that alone will not solve the problem. And getting prohibitions passed that only address the mentally ill may also require a constitutional amendment. Banning me from owning a weapon when i have never committed a crime probably violates my 14th amendment rights of equal protection. Which is probably why the laws on the mentally ill are not stronger. So we are back at square one.

    •  This is the crime that no one wants to face! (0+ / 0-)
      But I can not afford the copays for regular therapy. $30.00/visit weekly I just can not afford. I see my psychiatrist 4 times a year for meds.
      They want to blame some object and then say it's not the fault of Republicanism over the past 30 yrs.

      As for this:

      Banning me from owning a weapon when i have never committed a crime probably violates my 14th amendment rights of equal protection
      Agreed.  But we do mandate doctors, school teachers, etc into reporting suspected child abuse.  Why can't they be mandated in reporting someone whom is a danger to themselves or others?

      Why can't they be mandated to report the prescriptions they sign off on into the NICS system? How hard or expensive would that really be? Punching in the numbers into a computer? Maybe doctors would actually think twice before drugging people.

      States still can regulate arms. Here in New York you cannot get a permit if someone in your home is a criminal. We're routinely denied that right without due process and forced to pay the price for someone else's actions.

      The line has already been crossed.  What makes medical privacy so special?  

      Maybe when emotions have settled down we can talk about fully funded public mental health services.

      That will help so many and stop so much violence and it will be completely constitutional.

      -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

      by gerrilea on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 10:53:00 AM PST

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