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  •  You know how much 60 elk can eat and trample (7+ / 0-)

    in a manner of minutes?   A lot.

    And yes, if you value having plants of any kind whatsoever, for food or for ornamentation, you build an elk fence.

    •  I Saw You Mention You Are A Vegetarian (3+ / 0-)
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      Shuksan Tahoma, citizenx, DvCM

      I am not, although I don't each much meat. But I do love me some wild game (although I don't hunt -- which is a problem). But if I lived in a place where 60 elk might roam across my property I'd have an elk in my freezer. You know, just saying :)!

      When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

      by webranding on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:20:26 PM PST

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      •  they get poached every year. especially the bulls (7+ / 0-)

        I don't begrudge hunters who do so to put food in their freezer.  

        I'm even trying to get ready to raise chickens for eggs and maybe collect an oyster or two from the beach.   Living rurually in an area of relative abundance, it's really a no-brainer,  and I say this as a vegan of going on 20 years.

        But I think it's a shame that each spring the bull elk seem younger than the spring before, when it should be the opposite.

        •  This Is The View Outside My Front Door (6+ / 0-)

          Corn Field (Mascoutah)

          I don't have the adundance you do. Plus hunting seasons are very limited. But if my garden expansion keeps up at the pace it is going within 3-4 years my entire yard will be growing stuff that isn't just grass.

          I don't have a "green thumb." I've literally kill cactus. But alas the soil is the color of tar and I've found it is almost impossible for me to kill anything.

          When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

          by webranding on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:34:14 PM PST

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          •  We don't have the problem of living things growing (5+ / 0-)
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            webranding, marina, Aunt Pat, worldlotus, DvCM

            down here in Texas of late, our deer eat rocks.

          •  good soil is an abundance itself, especially (4+ / 0-)
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            if you have water too.   It's good, computer geeks turning into  farmers.

            •  The Soil Is Amazing And We Still Get Rain (3+ / 0-)
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              Aunt Pat, worldlotus, DvCM

              although my garden this year wasn't the best, but then again it was 110+ for two weeks plus not soon after I planted (and I was late to the game).

              I am a proud computer geek. Also a foodie. But anybody with half a mind knows something grown in their own garden is superior to what you get in a store. And when I found out (1) how easy it as (2) how cheap it was (3) how much fulfillment I got from it all it was a no-brainer.

              BTW: I don't have a lot of land, but thinking about chickens. When I bought my house there was an old, like 20x20 shed in the back yard. I tore it down. But it seems like the perfect place to put a chicken coop and a few chickens.

              When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

              by webranding on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 10:53:47 PM PST

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              •  I recommend this book: (4+ / 0-)
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                webranding, Aunt Pat, worldlotus, DvCM

                A Chicken in Every Yard: The Urban Farm Store's Guide to Chicken Keeping.  

                An excellent, informative, and FUN read.  It inspired me to think I could do it - and like I said - as a long-term vegan.


                I do GIS, Python, Django, Debian, PostgreSQL.... you?

                •  I Am Lower End Than You By A Lot (3+ / 0-)
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                  Shuksan Tahoma, Aunt Pat, worldlotus

                  many folks I know say I do programming. Nope. Not even close. Mostly WordPress. HTML. CSS. Some basic PHP. I've worked with programmers and I am not that :)!

                  I taught myself all that on the side about 12 years ago when I had another job as the VP of Marketing (yes I am that guy) for a software company, just cause I was curious.

                  I am thinking of trying to learn Ruby on Rails. But that is about as far as I think I will go.

                  When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

                  by webranding on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:12:26 PM PST

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                  •  not really (2+ / 0-)
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                    Aunt Pat, worldlotus

                    I pretty much hack at it myself (in the alternative sense of the word 'hack' as in 'duffer' when referring to an amateur, and poor golfer.)   Have you looked at python/django vs ruby on rails?  I've never tried the latter, so I can't compare, but if you can handle basic PHP you can probably launch a django testing environment and take it from there.   I never learned C, Java, or .NET and don't think I will.

                    •  Again At Many Levels I Am A Novice (1+ / 0-)
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                      The reason I am looking at Ruby on Rail is speed of development. I started to teach myself some of this stuff was cause I worked with a large tech team and they seemed to suggest what they did for a living was rocket science. That a mere mortal like myself couldn't understand, so if they said something would take a month to do, just deal with it.

                      I wondered if it was.

                      I found out it wasn't. Don't get me wrong they were programming at levels far above my pay grade, but as I started to look at things it wasn't as complex as I once thought.

                      When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

                      by webranding on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 11:40:16 PM PST

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                      •  ruby/rails or python/django are similar that way (1+ / 0-)
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                        once we have the concept of a MVC web framework figured out it gets easier.  Database skills certainly help.  

                        I like python because it can do so much in so many different realms.   I suppose ruby is similar.   Most of them have nothing to do with delivering web pages.  PHP is really a limiting technology, since that is mostly all it does.  

          •  gotcha beat... my senior study was on light (4+ / 0-)
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            effects on cockleburs (common weed in n.c.).

            i killed all my planted ones for the study - twice.  over 500 planted cockleburs and only 5 total ever grew out of two plantings - in a friggin GREENHOUSE!

            got a c+  my advisor said it would have been an A if i had any research to back up my paper.

            that's why i switched to theatre for grad school.  all my ballerinas and danseurs survived! *some with a few pin pricks here and there....

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