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  •  That's a poor analogy (12+ / 0-)

    A better one is: Let's not deal with drunk driving, and sweep the bodies under the rug, because it might lead to restrictions on alcohol sales in general.

    Of course, we did crack down on drunk driving, and our society turned against it, and lo and behold, the resulting deaths have dropped enormously.  Down over 60% since the early 80's.  

    And we didn't have to ban all alcohol sales, go figure.  In fact, alcohol laws are more liberal than ever.  

    Progress is coming, kovie.  You can join the conversation or stay out, but it's going to happen.  

    Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

    by nominalize on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:14:47 AM PST

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    •  Banning, dealing with, it's all part of the same (3+ / 0-)
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      thing, whether we're talking about gun violence or drunk driving accidents. We need to do all that we can to meaningfully decrease incidents of both without adversely and pointlessly restricting other rights or privileges.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:30:24 AM PST

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      •  indeed (1+ / 0-)
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        yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

        by annieli on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:34:18 AM PST

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      •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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        Of course, restricting the ownership and sale of military and paramilitary-style weapons, which have no redeeming social value, is not pointless.  

        But whatever the solution to our problem is, what's most important is that we stop pretending there isn't a problem, because some of us are afraid that the solution might infringe on our lifestyle.  

        Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

        by nominalize on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:36:39 AM PST

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        •  Not "our" lifestyle--certainly not mine (2+ / 0-)
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          THEIR "lifestyle"--one that scrapes the bottom of my list of priorities of things we have to "protect". Freedom comes with implicit responsibilities and limits.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 10:02:44 AM PST

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    •  Cars don't kill people; drunks do (1+ / 0-)
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      So let's not make cars safer. That's a point fro Nick Kristof today in NYT.

      For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

      by Anne Elk on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 10:59:43 AM PST

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