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  •  Stupid to think guards will fix it. (4+ / 0-)
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    If the school had a guard what's to say he simply would have been the first victim. There is a thing called element of surprise. We don't know the facts yet but my guess is the inoffensive looking young person was buzzed in. Likely assumed to be the brother of a student who forgot their lunch, or some such thing. Or maybe not assumed, may he had a good story to get buzzed in. You just would not see this youth as a threat assuming he had the guns hidden on his person. It's so easy for security to break down, no matter what you do. Every hi-rise condo owner is told not to let people into the building, yet so many hold the darn door open for someone who happens to want in at the same time. At my parents place, I tell them, sorry you have to get in on your own. Some live there and complain and then I tell them get a clue they are rotten residents.

    •  Reports I heard he either (4+ / 0-)
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      broke in the glass on the door or shot his way through...of course the details are still vague.

    •  Won't fix it (1+ / 0-)
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      but maybe we could use school marshals just as the TSA deploys federal air marshals.  Not a fix, but perhaps a deterrent.  This in addition to more stringent gun control, which no matter what we do will not be an overnight solution.

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 11:38:20 AM PST

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        We could have rational laws about guns and not have to have security theatre at airports or locked doors at schools.

        As long as crazy people are allowed to have guns, we will have lots of dead people. I do not know why the NRA and insane congressmen do not care about the number of kids who are murdered because of their insane views about guns, but I do not care what excuse they have. The gun nuts are co-conspirators on every gun murder in America.

        Hey, hey, NRA, how many kids did you kill today?

        by freelunch on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 12:03:48 PM PST

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      •  My main problem (4+ / 0-)
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        with having guards or marshals or giving the teachers guns is that I don't see why that is any less dangerous than giving them to random civilians, since it's not like guards/marshals/teachers are somehow immune to the same kind of mental and emotional issues that this shooter had.

        •  Yeah ... (1+ / 0-)
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          it is still a proliferation of firearms.  I am averse to arming teachers -- or depending on them to stop gun-wielding lunatics.  Of course, cops can go nuts, too -- or make mistakes.  But doe this risk outweigh the greater security?  Good question.

          Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

          by winsock on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 03:46:50 PM PST

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    •  The armed guard at the door could be shredded (0+ / 0-)

      by semi-auto rifle fire from a couple of hundred feet away in the parking lot.

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