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  •  I think there is a difference between target (4+ / 0-)
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    practice and buying a gun at a gun show. I don't see anything wrong with kids learning to shoot at target practice.  I do see it wrong to be able for anyone, of any age to have a semi-automatic, or any of these war style guns in their homes.

    I think we also need to make sure that those  people that have mental illnesses get help, free help and that everyone gets mental health screenings, just like we get physicals.

    I agree with you about the gun show, as for the age 12 thing and hunting, I think some 12 year olds can handle that and the parent should be able to decide.

    I don't think kids should be able to buy their own guns, though. Is that what you mean, they can actually buy their own gun, without the parent knowing? Geez... what have we come to?

    •  And maybe some twelve year olds could handle (9+ / 0-)

      driving--but should we let that be up to the parents to decide? Hell,no.

    •  But we can leave the semi-automatics (6+ / 0-)

      ...at the shooting range.

      Who needs them anywhere else?

      I grew up with guns.  Everyone had a gun rack in their den.

      A shot gun is a dangerous weapon, but it is not a semi-automatic.

      The highest form of spiritual practice is self observation with compassion.

      by NCJim on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:02:58 AM PST

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      •  Have to be careful (0+ / 0-)

        There are various semiautos that are not assault type of weapons. Several popular .22 rifles, like the Marlin model 60 and Ruger 10/22 are semiautomatics. They do not have the same firepower as say an AR 15 semiautomatic. There are also several hunting rifles that are semiautomatic, but have a limited capacity, let's say 5-6 rounds. Then there are several shotguns that are semiautomatic, that are used for waterfowl and other bird hunting. They too are limited in ammo capacity.  

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        by Texas Lefty on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 08:08:45 AM PST

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      •  Um... I have a shotgun (5+ / 0-)

        that will shoot 6 shells before it needs reloading, which I consider to be as 'semi-automatic' as I'm ever likely to need. In fact, I would like to get a revolver as well, because I'm now in my 60s and that shotgun is both heavy and has a significant kick. But I could be convinced to have something with a standard-sized clip if someone gave me one.

        We live far enough out in the boonies to actually need a weapon that can dispatch rabid wildlife or dumped/abandoned starving dogs that go after the livestock, etc. more efficiently than an arrow and at greater distance than a baseball bat requires. And something that looks business-like enough to convince random strangers who show up during hunting season pretending they can't read Posted signs.

        Just an answer to your question about who needs a gun outside a shooting range. Even today not everyone lives in a city or suburb.

    •  I worry- a lot- about teenage boys (15+ / 0-)

      who have ready access to guns. I've known six of them who are now dead because they used a gun to commit suicide.

      One of them was very depressed- no one including the cops could convince him that he was not to blame for a horrible accident and he was awash in guilt. But the others were just dealing with typical teenage stuff- girlfriend broke up with them in 2 cases. They were "normal" kids who overreacted to an upsetting situation, and you don't get to have second thoughts with a gun.

      Just realized I said six kids but it's actually seven. Pretty sick when there are so many that it's hard to keep track.

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