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  •  Because that isn't the only answer I have recieved (0+ / 0-)

    If words have no meaning, neither does conversation.

    •  Words have no meaning (1+ / 0-)
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      The arbitrary sign of language (not that you would understand that) is that words have meaning because you and I and the rest of the collective that speak a common language say they. I say a "tree" is that thing that grows out of the ground outside with leaves, a plant. Most other speakers of English would agree that this is the definition of "tree". Therefore, the word tree has a meaning for us. There is nothing inherently tree-like about a tree on a linguistic level. Should I live in France, I would call it an "arbre". Does that make French trees less tree-like than American trees? No.

      What we have here is a collective that agrees on a definition of "gun fetishist". You as an individual do not agree with this definition. That doesn't mean that you are the arbiter of language.

      Your entire argument is based on semantics. Maybe you should consider the real world ramifications of your positions before engaging in mental masturbation on blogs to validate yourself.

      •  "a collective that agrees" (0+ / 0-)

        You haven't read the comments.
        The definitions I have seen include (but not limited to): "like porn", "is for keeping the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment as is"....and, I shit you not "sex with guns".
        As such I have been told I'm not a 'gun fetishist', and, I am a 'gun fetishist'.
        There is no agreement. A simple scroll of this comment section proves that.

        •  No, there is no agreement (0+ / 0-)

          Because everyone is just reacting now, anger tinged lizard brain reactions. If you want to discuss this, wait. Let the emotion settle down. I would also suggest that you give your definition instead of repeatedly asking.

          "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

          by high uintas on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 04:09:17 PM PST

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          •  My definition? (0+ / 0-)

            That's easy "foolish and meaningless" most invented words are--especially when politically based.
            I don't know if you noticed or not, but the discussion has already begun. If we can't even discuss what a word means (while simultaneously inventing it) then there is no 'waiting' that will suffice.
            The time for discussion is now.

            •  I just don't think this is the center of debate (0+ / 0-)

              it's an insult that is thrown around. There have been bigger insults thrown in the last couple of days.

              oldpunk did a great diary of discussion today, btw.

              "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

              by high uintas on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 08:48:00 PM PST

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              •  It isn't a center of debate (0+ / 0-)

                It is a request for clarification for a word that Kos himself used.
                If his own members have no idea (or at least WILDLY VARYING ideas of) what it means, then it needs to be clarified.

                Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                by FrankRose on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:03:31 PM PST

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