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  •  bupton - you have been here six years (14+ / 0-)

    one comment when you first registered and now, six years later, a diary. Where have you been?

    Your idea has no chance in Congress and will not even be discussed by the people negotiating on this issue. It basically takes away the right to private ownership and control of guns. That's not going to happen.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 05:44:46 PM PST

    •  (bupton is my husband) (2+ / 0-)
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      splashy, WakeUpNeo

      I read dailykos more than he does, but we also talk about many things here.  He hangs out more on the straight dope message boards.

      I read and comment, but only published one diary as well.

      In any case, if we don't stake out positions far far away from the status quo, there will be no space in which to negotiate.  

      •  eru - no laws will be passed without some (1+ / 0-)
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        support from Republicans. If you start with the position that their are no responsible gun owners it is easy for the GOP to take the position that you are not negotiating in good faith and just walk away and the status quo is maintained. My experience in negotiating is that you have to start with an aggressive but defensible position. bupton's view does not meet the defensible criteria. Even here, on a very progressive blog, the overwhelming percentage of comments think the view is nonsense.  

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 11:21:11 PM PST

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        •  I still think it's important (0+ / 0-)

          to let people know that many Americans do indeed want a total ban on gun ownership.  Practical or not, defensible or not, that is my opinion.  I think modern guns are horrible, and I don't want anyone to have any.  

          •  eru - your view is understandable (0+ / 0-)

            but the discussion is about legislative tactics and strategy. There are million of people like you who would like to see a total ban on guns. However, the current SCOTUS has stated that people have an individual right to own a gun and we have a long history as Americans of gun ownership. Public opinion seems to center on reasonable gun control, rather than a ban.

            "let's talk about that"

            by VClib on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 11:01:49 AM PST

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