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  •  Some people have had good luck with it (7+ / 0-)

    and others have had bad experiences.
    Have you tried any of the nicotine replacements?  I would recommend those first.  
    Fresh veggies, gum balls, jerky, fruits, ice cream, a kicking stump would all help.  Just not one cigarette.

    The sun's not yellow, it's chicken. B. Dylan

    by bgblcklab1 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:22:18 PM PST

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    •  I have not tried anything, yet. (7+ / 0-)

      I have made a vow to quit on the 1st and if I don't, I will consider it as a personal failure. I don't want to have to beat myself up. LOL!
      The Chantix  kinda sounds like an expensive bunch of crap to me, but if it works (makes it easier) I would give it a try.

      •  Rule number one: Don't beat yourself up. (7+ / 0-)

        You are going to take on a very difficult challenge.  It is not impossible but difficult.  You might fail but if you do you will try again.
        It is too late for Chantix is you want to quit on the 1st.  Try the gun or lozenges to get you through the tough Jones's.  
        And stay in touch here.

        The sun's not yellow, it's chicken. B. Dylan

        by bgblcklab1 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:38:00 PM PST

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      •  It works for some people (7+ / 0-)

        but there are side effects.

        Nausea, is most prevalent followed by headache, difficulty sleeping, and abnormal dreams. also change in taste, vomiting, abdominal pain, flatulence, and constipation.

        The FDA has required a black box warning on the product due to possible suicidal tendencies in some cases.

        "In a 2006 randomized controlled trial sponsored by Pfizer, after one year the rate of continuous abstinence was 10% for placebo, 15% for bupropion and 23% for varenicline. In a 2009 meta-analysis of 101 studies funded by Pfizer, varenicline was found to be more effective than bupropion (odds ratio 1.40) and NRTs (odds ratio 1.56)."

        wiki entry for Varenicline

        There is no failure involved in any effort to quit. Most of us have quit multiple times. It's hard. (for most) You're doing a great thing for yourself. You deserve credit for it, support, and encouragement and that's what you'll almost certainly find here.

      •  Yeah, let go of the "personal failure" thing (5+ / 0-)

        That's what stops so many people in their tracks, the fear of failing, or the perception that they are failures if they don't "get it right" from day one.

        Fact is, it takes most people a bunch of times to make a quit stick...the common thread for successful quitters is a desire to quit, and a willingness to keep at it (to quit as many times as it takes) until it sticks! Some of us get it on the first try; some take a bunch -- we are all doing something pretty tough and each of us is different, so the ways we get there will be different too.

        Things to consider about Chantix -- it is a fairly major medication, in that it carries a black box warning, which means (among other things) that it requires close medical supervision because of some extreme side effects that have been observed. Some here have quit using it and had a very good result; it has also put at least one person I know of in the hospital with a very bad reaction. There's no way of knowing where you might land on that continuum. I know the FAA bans pilots from taking it, because of potential psychological reactions.

        My feeling is that it should be a last resort---rather than first attempt---kind of approach.  Other methods are less medically drastic. The approach with the best success rate is some kind of nicotine replacement therapy (patch, lozenge, gum) plus some kind of therapeutic support, which can include participating in a supportive community or self-help group (like GUS), or getting behavior modification therapy from a smoking cessation counselor or clinical professional. Most health plans cover this kind of thing, and most states also have quitlines and subsidized treatment options.

        The key seems to be having regular feedback and support to deal with the psychological aspect of the addiction while the NRT step-down takes care of the physical side of things. I think you'll find this group very supportive, the opposite of nagging, and not critical. We know that beating yourself up is a waste of energy!

        "When did it fall apart? Sometime in the '80s / When the great and the good gave way to the greedy and the mean." - Billy Bragg

        by Vacationland on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:40:40 PM PST

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