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  •  I'm guess there's more to the story, but... (0+ / 0-)

    on the face of it, this diarist shouldn't have been banned.

    Advocating for third parties

    Advocating primaries is permitted. Advocating not voting, even if it's a stupid idea, is permitted. Advocating for a third party is not permitted. Two exceptions are "places with fusion voting like NY when the Working Families Party has endorsed the Democrat. Or, in those rare cases where an election doesn't have a Democrat on the ballot" such as Bernie Sanders in Vermont.[36] [37] "Diary-pimping for Ron Paul - and promoting his candidacy - got people banned in 2008. And still does." [38]

    Users have been banned (after previous warnings) for advocating that it would be better if a Republican replaced Obama. [39]

    "....discussing the efficacy of third parties in the abstract remains OK. But advocating for a third-party candidate against a viable Democrat is not. And advocating for joining or forming a third-party in opposition to Democrats is not." [40] There's a difference between seeing a "need" for a third party and calling for people to vote for or join the Greens or another third party. [41]

    This should not be interpreted as a ban on criticizing Democrats. [42] It is also fair game to argue that this site policy should be changed. [43]

    "People advocating for Republicans or Greens (or other parties) have been banned since early 2004." [44]

    The rule has always had a subtext that it is OK to talk about third parties in the abstract, about the (alleged) need for them and how they would improve the country if we had strong ones. Those who do so should expect a strong reaction, but it's not against the rules. What's been forbidden is advocating that people vote for third parties in elections where Democrats are running against Republicans. [45]

    As far as I know, nobody has ever been banned merely for discussing the merits of a third party. [46]
    Seeing the "need for" a third party is...

    ...not advocacy. When nippersdad starts specifically calling for support of Green candidates or joining the Greens or another third party, that's a different matter. This distinction has been made here since the site began.

    Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I'll tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 11:20:56 AM PDT

    Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

    by Just Bob on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 05:06:50 PM PST

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