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  •  Point? (3+ / 0-)

    I don't get your point.   So, they invested for a long time, and now, they are backing out.   You're contending the fact they were a long time backer means they should just throw up their hands and keep backing them, even once they realize they should not be because of serious differences.

    This argument makes absolutely no sense

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 02:04:26 PM PST

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    •  I am disputing your point (0+ / 0-)

      that this decision helps retired teachers to sleep better.

      Their "moral earnestness" is phony and their claim of differences is insincere.  Just because it is a good argument does not mean they can make it withou exposing themselves to charges of bigotry.

      Those "differences" have been there for years now, the facts of their investment have not changed a bit.

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      "Und wer nicht tanzen will am Schluss - weiß noch nicht dass er tanzen muss", Rammstein, "Amerika"

      by cris0000 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 02:23:01 PM PST

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      •  Bigotry? (2+ / 0-)
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        Bigoted against.. what exactly?

        Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

        by Chris Reeves on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 02:24:00 PM PST

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        •  Oh well.... (0+ / 0-)

          Wikipedia defines Bigotry as the state of mind of a bigot, and the OED defines a bigot as a person who is bigoted.

          This seems to be, at least to some extent, a case of walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.  They can't define it very well - but they know it when they see it.

          They all, though, focus the term on resentment, hate and prejudice.

          My personal definition used to be resentment/hatred under the guise of morality. A Bigot is not a hater alone, but one who tries to pass himself off as virtuous in his resentment.

          Therefore the defining quality of a bigot is not only that resentment of others, but the inconsistency between his public moral persona and his unreasonable resenting self.

          You might argue, though, that while we have both resentment and public bousts of morality here, they don't fit that pattern very well.

          So, yes, it might not be a case of textbook bigotry but just vanilla pharisaic phoniness, mixed with standard leftwing resentment of arms and the military. Which doesn't make it any better.

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          "Und wer nicht tanzen will am Schluss - weiß noch nicht dass er tanzen muss", Rammstein, "Amerika"

          by cris0000 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 02:53:29 PM PST

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          •  I doubt very many teachers really know where (1+ / 0-)
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            their pension money goes, as many coworkers in my district were shocked when they heard about Enron related losses. So, it seems like a stretch to assume enough teachers even know who Cerberus is, or enough about them to debate with themselves over how well to sleep over it.

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