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  •  Shock and Awe was never an option in Pakistan (4+ / 0-)
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    Shock and Awe was a specific tactic used against a military establishment that was in power in Iraq.  In Pakistan we have friendly troops on the ground that are doing enforcement and we have regular attacks against "insurgents" based on statistical analysis of behavior.  We don't know how many actually combatants we've killed and we can't know.  I would bet good money that our drone campaign in Pakistan is far more deadly than the Shock and Awe campaign at the beginning of the War in Iraq.

    Of course, since it's a Dem running it we don't have the protests that we did against Bush.

    The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 11:52:35 AM PST

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    •  Keep believing that..... (1+ / 0-)
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      ....are those "friendly troops on the ground that are doing enforcement" the same ones that were encamped next door to old Bin's place?

      The same ones that were there as we surveiled the place using drones before we surgically removed his ass with a small SEAL team?

      Rule #7...If you supported the Iraq war, you don't get to complain about the national debt.

      by suspiciousmind on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 12:53:25 PM PST

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      •  Let me ask you a question then (5+ / 0-)
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        How was Shock and Awe an option in Pakistan?

        They have nuclear weapons.  They have a real army.  Yes, there are problems with cooperation between our countries, but only an idiot thinks invasion was ever any sort of realistic option.  Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but the US doesn't invade countries that can fight back at all.  Doesn't matter who's in charge.

        The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:02:57 PM PST

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        •  If you'd asked me the same question.... (0+ / 0-)

          ....about Iraq on March 19, 2003, I would, and did, say it's a bluff.

          Bush/cheney and co. would've done Pakistan too if they thought they, and their wealthy pals, could gain anything from it.

          Rule #7...If you supported the Iraq war, you don't get to complain about the national debt.

          by suspiciousmind on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:39:09 PM PST

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          •  As I noted, the difference is that Iraq was (3+ / 0-)
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            a weak country that never had the ability to defend itself.  Bush would not have gone into a country with nuclear weapons.  We are never going to invade a country with nuclear weapons.  Not going to happen because that means destruction on a level that is unacceptable to the folks in charge.

            The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

            by AoT on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:45:10 PM PST

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            •  We never wanted conflict with Pakistan.. (0+ / 0-)

              ...our "enemy" is the taliban, which moved from afghanistan into pakistan for refuge and the drones are picking them off there since the pakistanis don't want to do it for us regardless of how much we pay them to do it.

              Rule #7...If you supported the Iraq war, you don't get to complain about the national debt.

              by suspiciousmind on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:41:50 PM PST

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        •  Invasion was never necessary or an option. (0+ / 0-)

          The issue that most interests the Pakistanis is India. A major diplomatic turn to India making her the favored power in the region instead of Pakistan would have turned things round quite nicely. But very few on the Bush team new anything about geopolitics outside of the cold war era.

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