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  •  I am an ISA Certified Arborist (FL-5861A) (27+ / 0-)

    in South Florida (we have hurricanes here, too). Unless something is wrong with the tree (torsion cracks, trunk or root decay, leaning, etc.), your conifer is probably not much of a risk, especially if it withstood Sandy without significant damage (that deserves a little respect, no?). Conifers naturally have the structure that has been clinically found to be the one most resistant to hurricanes, unlike the oaks mention a couple comments downstream.

    I'd recommend you pay a local ISA Certified Arborist (you can find one here), before you decide on removal. Better still, you may want to find a local ISA Board Certified Master Arborist or a Registered Consulting Arborist and pay him/her for a written hazard assessment in order to offset any motive s/he may have to sell you tree removal services. Whatever you pay for your consulting services will be far, far less than the cost of removing a "majestic conifer." You might also want to ask whoever you consult if s/he had any previous experience with trees in hurricanes.

    Here's a relevant article from the University of Florida about trees and hurricanes. Its frame of reference is obviously Florida, but removing a large tree is a big and costly decision, so it might be worth a few minutes to look it over anyway.

    Good luck, and thanks for the good news about Shell.

    The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

    by psnyder on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 05:50:21 PM PST

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    •  great comment (10+ / 0-)

      Tree removal is really expensive, and tree damage to structures is even more so. There's a lot to think about, and getting professional advice is well worth the cost.

      Just don't go with the "tipping and topping" butchery that the door-to-door guys sell.

      This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

      by Karl Rover on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:00:06 PM PST

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      •  "Topping" and "hat-racking" are illegal practices (9+ / 0-)

        in most jurisdictions, since most incorporate the ANSI A300 Tree Pruning Standards, which explicitly proscribe them. The ironic thing is that when people demand topping and hat-racking, they usually think that they will thereby make their trees safer, when, in fact, the reverse is true.

        And door-to-door guys? Oy! Require their business license, any arborist certification they may have, and their certificate of insurance naming you as an additional insured. Insurance certs should come directly from the insurance company. Just asking for those items will sift out a lot of undesirable operators.

        The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

        by psnyder on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:27:53 PM PST

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    •  thank you psnyder... (5+ / 0-)

      someone who cheers this news about shell, and takes down majestic trees without having any knowledge of what they are about to do...is interesting to say the least.

      We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

      by Christin on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:14:55 PM PST

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      •  Having been through several hurricanes (7+ / 0-)

        myself, I don't blame anyone for believing that the wise course is removal. I talk to lots of people who feel that way. And there's no doubt that if the tree is gone, one has reduced to zero the probability that it will cause harm. But we live with probabilities of harm > 0 from many things every day, and it's always a judgment call whether the reward is worth the risk.

        One thing I didn't mention above is that local regulations may require a permit for tree removal and corresponding "mitigation," i.e., planting of new trees. Unpermitted removal can be punishable by heavy fines. In cases of emergency removals of hazardous trees (like one leaning on a house or blocking a street), permitting is usually waived, but that may not be true with regard to a tree that presents no imminent threat. Find out the law in your area.

        The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

        by psnyder on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:52:23 PM PST

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