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  •  You may get voices heard but do remember (1+ / 0-)
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    he is not running for re-election. He got us in 2008 and his operators got us again in 2012. In my case I knew what we were getting in 2012. There would be no changes. It was bad vs worse.  Why are people surprised that the same Obama is still in office?

    Somehow some people believed that he was a  kind person who would do the right thing once the pressures of re-election were gone. Good God.  Buy here pay here used car salespeople and stock brokers are salivating at the chance to get a one on one with all of you.

    As I mentioned: Leverage comes before the election. If you were afraid to use it then then there would be no hope after he was elected. The next four years will be worse than the previous four years. We are now in the "I got Mine" economic mode. Obama Has his. He sure as hell didn't have shit until he stepped on the national stage with in the last decade. As he himself admitted, they were still paying off school loans.

    If you hope for the best and plan for the worst you are way better off than dreaming of someone who is there who really wants to fight for you. ..Just because he said he would. That was a political promise. Shit everyone knows they are lies. Didn't you?

    •  We have leverage...... (0+ / 0-)

      Unless he just plans to sit around and collect a check for the next four years, he needs us or he may as well switch parties. How's that for a legacy? He is absolutely despised by the other side. Without our support he has zero relevance.

      •  Without our support, he lives like a billionaire (3+ / 0-)
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        and has a lifetime of hundred thousand dollar speaking fees  ahead of him.

        "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

        by JesseCW on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 12:01:34 PM PST

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        •  He'll have a 1%... (1+ / 0-)
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          A 1% Retirement income without the speeches. At two years he becomes a lame duck, probably earlier now that the 2016 cycle has started. Secret Service protection. Health Care that's available to no one. He can be like Bush and reluctantly show his face or go for the grand slam and try to be like the Clinton's. But that walk-away approval rating is what counts. That's the difference between a low 7 earner like Bush or a high 8 earner like Clinton.

          It all depends on how rich he wants to be. That's where the calculations are at.

          Clinton may have had sex with that woman but I don't recall him fucking old people. So he knew instinctively how to triangulate to his best advantage. With Obama along with a second term comes ownership of a sick economy that is only getting better for those who didn't have a problem to begin with. If 2016 is the same old , same old and the old people are even more fucked , Bush will be the one most relieved.

    •  HE may not be getting re-elected ... (2+ / 0-)
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      but Congress will be.  And that's where any leverage might be, if indeed there is any.

      How is taking a hundred dollars worth of food from hungry kids or from old poor sick people equal to taking a hundred dollars from billionaires? -- howabout, 19 Dec 2012

      by billlaurelMD on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 01:07:21 PM PST

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