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  •  Yes, Kvetch, a similarity which caused me to think (8+ / 0-)

    on it... but that is because they are arguments in favor of rights, as I said. Ex:

    Freedom of Privacy. Humor me for a minute and imagine what defenses are exercised by gun owners that would not be exercised by defenders of privacy?

    Plenty of people use their privacy responsibly. We shouldn't have it intruded on just because some people have misused the privilege to plot secretly about how to use bananas to take over the Island Nation of Donkeykongistan. Why, I use privacy every day while engaging in consensual non-reproductive social intercourse with a close friend who I would not want to reveal intimate details about. Privacy, exercised responsibly, gives people the freedom to express themselves in different ways at different situations.

    The only arguments that can ever be made in defense of rights and privileges is that they:
    - Offer a direct benefit to the society.
    - Do not harm the society when practiced correctly.

    Which is why it falls on statistics and, where required, res ipsa loquitur - the thing speaks for itself. America's only outliers related to gun violence incidents are our number of them and the number of guns we have roaming around freely; not our media. That is why these arguments are specious when made in favor of gun rights without responsible controls, but not in favor of any other right.

    •  Ok, I'll bite. Obscenity is unprotected speech. (1+ / 0-)
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      Replace prurient with violence and the Miller test could be applicable. Community standards are undergoing a transformation in regards to gun ownership, so can and should the standards upon which we judge obscenity in terms of gun violence in the media. Yes, when rights are restricted, there are thresholds which must be satisfied so in fact responsibility is the sine qua non of rights.

      "If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill

      by Kvetchnrelease on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:26:24 AM PST

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