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  •  You misrepresent what I wrote (11+ / 0-)

    Quite glaringly

    Hopefully others won't fall for this spin

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    by Brit on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 05:08:23 AM PST

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    •  It seems to me people are conflating & confusing (3+ / 0-)
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      symptoms with causes.

      Obsessive playing of any game is not a good thing, whether the game at hand is violent or farmville. That's because obsessive behavior is unhealthy.

      A tiny minority of mentally ill people will harm others. Doesn't mean we don't need to address mental illness on a broader level. I do think Breivik is mentally ill or unstable or suffering from some disorder and I don't think it's useful to say someone who is mentally ill can't plan and execute a shooting spree.  Something was wrong with Lanza, that's pretty clear.

      It strikes me that the official definitions of mental illness work to deny and lead other to fail diagnosing mental illness (there's an odd parallel in that the NRA has messed with the definition of assault weapons such that the Bushmaster isn't classified as one even though it is a rapid fire weapon).

      But being able to easily buy and resell a rapid fire or legally classified assault weapon and ammunition and having them in your home seems ridiculous. Lanza's mother would not have had them if they were illegal.

      As I said above, I'm for very strict gun control, but don't think we can get that passed in the U.S. Right now, I'd settled for expanded definition of what constitutes an assault weapon and the ammunition that goes with that, a ban on these weapons for sale or resale, and a massive government buy back of existing assault weapons that fall under new definitions.  

      Proactive and retroactive measures. It did some good in Australia.

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      by ksh01 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:13:13 AM PST

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      •  this is right on: (2+ / 0-)
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        A tiny minority of mentally ill people will harm others. Doesn't mean we don't need to address mental illness on a broader level. I do think Breivik is mentally ill or unstable or suffering from some disorder and I don't think it's useful to say someone who is mentally ill can't plan and execute a shooting spree.
        the can plan and execute complicated plans. and many of the mentally ill folks are also extremely smart and can be very capable people with proper treatment.

        to dismiss someone who is mentally ill as incapable of  doing something like Columbine or Sandy Hook or Virginia Tech is misguided big time. and that can be a dangerous assumption too.

        A) "The administration should be worried about the level of despair here." ~Markos Moulitsas at NN12 B) "Stoking the base’s enthusiasm is part of a campaign’s job, whether or not it thinks it should have to do it." ~Michelle Goldberg

        by poligirl on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:14:21 AM PST

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