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  •  Paranoid schizophrenia. Deadly and not rare. (10+ / 0-)

    Not Asperger's. Easy to confuse with autistic spectrum in the early milder stages, where schizotypal disorders present with social disabilities. It seems that Adam Lanza was tagged with "Asperger's" early on, which is not a condition that matches to violent behaviors, suicide, or any expression whatsoever of deep hatred.


    "There are various problems with Long’s impassioned piece when it comes to “talking” about mental illness, partly due to the fact it contained a slew of questionable diagnoses—Autism spectrum, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant, or Intermittent Explosive Disorder—which aren’t officially recognized as mental illnesses at all."
    Autism spectrum and ADHD are legally recognized disorders.

    The "big ticket" Axis I mental condition that matches with mass attacks on strangers is paranoid schizophrenia. That connection has been analyzed in some depth since the 1960s. America has approximately 50,000 of these people. They are difficult to identify: only 30% of surviving mass murderers who attacked groups had been identified for mental illness prior to their crimes.

    The task of separating paranoid schizophrenics from explosives and militarized weapons has required that countries change the ways they control these tools. Australia presents a recent, socially parallel, English-language example.

    Eliminating attacks on groups is not a difficult problem. Once you understand the problem. Saying the phrase "gun-wielding maniacs" doesn't move your thinking ahead quite enough; go for what medical science and analytical research provide.

    Anders Behring in Norway and Jared Loughner and Martin Bryant are paranoid schizophrenics. The disease is well analyzed:

    -- 17 per 100,000 people

    -- 50,000 Americans

    -- Lifetime condition after it develops

    America banned full-automatic machine guns and locked up explosives, but stopped after that.

    Australia got hit once in 1996, the Bryant slaughter, and they changed two weeks later. America gets hit once a month and we can't tell "paranoid schizophrenia" from cupcakes.

    Our Talking Head television experts have these murders driven by "bullying," "self pity," "rage," "trying to get attention," and "fame." There seems to be a ban on presenting the science here, what has come from psychiatric/medical/scientific evaluations of surviving mass murderers.

    Australia did a 600,000-weapon buy-back in 1996. They still have a couple million guns in homes. Yet their licensing system and utter disregard for Gun Biz profits have combined to eliminate 100% of these gun-facilitated mass murders over a period of 16 years.

    We need to understand paranoid schizophrenia, which is an organic illness. Early on the milder forms can be treated chemically -- as with most types of schizophrenia. Parents, teachers, school people need to know enough about this illness to make referrals to psychiatrists:

    -- Mayo Clinic, describing earlier, milder paranoid schizophrenia

    Symptoms and development characteristics are anything but "top secret."

    The first problem is to understand the problem.

    "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

    by bontemps2012 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:39:22 AM PST

    •  In rarer cases (5+ / 0-)

      it's simple brain trauma. The Texas Tower shooter was found to have a large cancerous growth in the brain which the autopsy showed would have killed him within that year. He had been having disturbing ideation fantasies of climbing the tower, which he had voiced to friends. His diaries showed a deep concern about the confusing thoughts that he could not subdue, and in the letters he wrote the day of his shooting spree he wanted to leave his belongings to medical research so that "tragedies like this" don't happen again. That was written after he had stabbed to death his mother and wife but before he went to the tower.

      Maybe he had paranoid schizophrenia in addition but it's hard for the layman not to conclude that his terminal brain condition contributed in some way to his ongoing degeneration. OTOH many people suffer malignant tumors in the brain and don't climb towers with a rifle, so I understand it's a more complicated issue.

      •  Check out Tennyson Obih. (0+ / 0-)

        He developed PS and was treated in the National Health Service long enough for a full case file to be developed.

        Hallucinations, delusional world view, anything and everything. "Off the radar" and off his meds.


        We don't even really try. NHS tries.

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

        by bontemps2012 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:15:01 AM PST

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