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  •  Proof of heaven (4+ / 0-)
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    Remillard, citizenx, Ref, milton333

    This irks me.  The author was in a coma, not dead.  He is alive now, proving that he was never dead, and so never went to heaven even to visit.  QED.

    Since I am moving into atheism, this annoys me more than it might have a few decades ago.

    A new birth of freedom..

    by docterry on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 12:43:14 PM PST

    •  Sam Harris commentary (1+ / 0-)
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      If you haven't, it's well worth reading.  From a logical perspective, the entire book is complete tripe even if you do believe in heaven.  He tries to make claims like it is proven, but neuroscientists say the entire event just happened while he was alive, and the brain was working.  The subjective experience means absolutely nothing when the brain is flooding itself with chemicals during periods of trauma.

      The fact that he's getting air time in regards to the slayings of children seriously makes me want to vomit.

      It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. ~~ Douglas Adams

      by Remillard on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 12:46:28 PM PST

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      •  Hmm... (2+ / 0-)
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        Here's my account of the afterlife, which I definitely visited when I wasn't really dead and was in fact just unconscious after surgery:

        Chuck Yeager showed up, because in the afterlife he's apparently dead.  He handed me a kumquat and told me "Never, EVER let go of this, it is made of thorium."  Then my math professor, but as a man (because that's possible in heaven) started teaching a class on something, but was interrupted when the roof of the building was picked up by a giant chipmunk.  (I'm not sure, but I think that was God.)  Everyone was running around screaming, but I threw the thorium kumquat that for some reason had become a textbook at the chipmunk/deity, which made it start snowing.  Then we went sledding.  We used giant nickels that were really light and had in place of Jefferson's face a portrait of Dave Letterman.

        I know it sounds incredible, but it's just as logical as this guy's story.  Or the "Divine Comedy."  Or even the entirety of St. Elsewhere as it existed in that kid's imagination at the end of the series.

        "O mulier, magna est fides tua. Fiat tibi sicut vis."

        by rujoking on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 01:38:59 PM PST

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      •  I had similar experiences (1+ / 0-)
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        Remillard

        when I was, ahem, younger and prone to abuse certain substances.  And I am very much alive, and also still an atheist.

        "Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation..."--David St. Hubbins

        by Old Left Good Left on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 01:41:50 PM PST

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      “Mr. Burns was admitted to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead. He was then transferred to a better hospital where his condition was upgraded to 'alive.'” ―Kent Brockman
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