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  •  It wouldn't have (3+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, vcmvo2, TexasTom

    Now I've have seen progressives AT THIS VERY BLOG compare Romney to Bush and Bush actually came out on top in a number of areas.

    Hell, even Obama went there in what I thought was a poignant moment of the debate.

    Hell, even I would prefer Bush to Romney...and that's saying something

    •  Tough call (10+ / 0-)

      Bush's most dangerous attribute was Cheney, Rmoney is too egocentric to delegate, both were incredibly incompetent, but I believe that Rmoney would have done as much or worse damage, particularly since he would have come in to a much more fragile environment than W did.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 09:26:41 AM PST

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      •  Two evils, none is lesser (4+ / 0-)

        I got the sense that Bush was aware, dimly, that he wasn't very bright, and the fact that people like Cheney led him around by the nose bothered him but he was too dumb not to let that happen.

        Rmoney's stupidity is the stealth kind, where he has no idea how narrow, parochial and downright evil his tiny thinking is.

        I'm not sixty-two—I'm fifty-twelve!

        by Pragmatus on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 10:36:32 AM PST

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        •  Bush did figure it out... (4+ / 0-)

          ...because after the 2006 mid-term election disaster, he apparently did quit listening to Cheney as much, which apparently led to a rift between them.  Of course, another way to look at that is that it took Bush six years to figure out that Cheney's advice sucked.

          As for Romney -- he's convinced that he is just the smartest thing on the face of the planet, and no amount of proof is going to convince him otherwise.

          Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

          by TexasTom on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 11:03:31 AM PST

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          •  I think it was more that (6+ / 0-)

            everyone around the two of them had figured out by 2005 (I'd date it to Scooter Libby's indictment.) that Cheney was off his rocker and by 2006 they started to isolate him, remove his hands from the levers.
            W floundered from then on and in his last 18 months worked 2 tracks, his "legacy" and landmines.
            Remember we kept hearing about his legacy? That was why he agreed to SoFA (totally bullsh!t, he was forced to sign it) that's why he stopped filling up GITMO, stopped the "Extraordinary Renditions", so that he'd leave a favorable impression (yeah right).
            And the other track was to pack as many of his appointees into the departments of the Executive Branch, converting his politicals into Civil Servants who could not be easily fired and were forever loyal to him as a rear guard action, ensuring that he wouldn't be extradited to the Hague any time soon.
            and, yeah:

            As for Romney -- he's convinced that he is just the smartest thing
            That's why I don't believe he'd have been a very effective Prez, too egobound to hand off decisions or listen to real information. An Imperial CEO that believes that he creates the conditions and the world had better jump to fulfill them.
            A boss from H3ll in other words

            If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

            by CwV on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 11:26:51 AM PST

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        •  I feel the same way about Reagan (2+ / 0-)
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          Zack from the SFV, Pragmatus

          For the majority of his Presidency (maybe before, but I was too young to remember him prior) he was little more than the actor he was, a paid spokesman for his "employers" the Republican party. It wasn't much different than commercial and celebrity endorsement work. For the most part, he wasn't President, he just played one on TV.

          "Is there anybody listening? Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling. Think for yourself, and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet." --Geoff Tate, Queensryche

          by DarthMeow504 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 02:35:22 PM PST

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          •  Reagan was a complete puppet, (0+ / 0-)

            right down to his sawdust-filled head.

            There is a great clip on YouTube showing an angry Donald Regan cutting sotto voce into an informal speech Reagan is making, telling him to speed it up, that they're behind schedule.

            Can you imagine that happening with Lincoln, Roosevelt, Kennedy, or Bill Clinton?  Each of those men had a working human personality.  Reagan had a tape recorder for a brain.  Feed stuff into it and he could regurgitate it on a movie set or podium, but when it came to news conferences where he was asked actual questions, some of them quite simple, he could only mumble and sputter.

            I'm not sixty-two—I'm fifty-twelve!

            by Pragmatus on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:49:05 PM PST

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          •  Reagan was (0+ / 0-)

            suffering from Alzheimers for most of his presidency. When he left office he was on the verge of stage 4. His cabinet kept the government running during his more and more frequent lapses of memory. Remember the Contra Affair and his answers before the committee? His response of "I don't remember" were actually the truth. He had no idea about most of what went on in his second term because he mentally wasn't there!

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            by mahytabel on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 08:20:28 PM PST

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