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  •  FWIW, I think it's important to distinguish (3+ / 0-)

    between categories of computer games.  Chess and Civilization, for example, are war games, but obviously not tied to violent acting out in the real world.

    But some games are really nasty.

    •  The important distinction (0+ / 0-)

      is not between violent and nonviolent games, but competitive and noncompetitive games, as another commenter pointed out.

    •  violent games aren't really tied to violent acting (0+ / 0-)

      out either. With that said, as someone who went to a few chess tournaments in middle school, I have seen people get VERY aggressive and even violent (well, angrily knocking over pieces) over chess... those are stronger reactions than any I've seen from any video game.

      And speaking personally, the only "aggression" I've ever felt in response to a game was a response to the difficulty of the game, not the content. For example, Fallout 3 (an easy and extremely violent game that involves no interaction with other people) just makes me feel sleepy. FIFA 13 (a nonviolent and very difficult game that is played competitively online) on the other hand...

      Similarly, arguments on the internet likely cause more real world aggression than any video game.

      •  Interesting comment. (0+ / 0-)

        I agree that Fallout 3 was a snooze, despite the almost consistently glowing reviews.  I started it four times and just could not get past the first couple of hours.  But I disagree with your claim that it is an "extremely violent" game.  Nah, it's just an average RPG.  

        You kill monsters in order to get stronger so you can kill bigger monsters . . . .  Repeatedly.  I like that kind of game in general, but it's not the kind of wicked violence I've been talking about.

        Don't know about FIFA 13, need to investigate that.

        •  I actually enjoy Fallout (1+ / 0-)
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          but all those Bethesda RPGs just have a soporific effect on me for some reason. As for how violent it is... eh, they're definitely worse than GTA and most shooters in terms of gore and just generally the player's ability to play as a horrible monstrosity.

          FIFA 13 is a great game, but you need to learn a bit about soccer to get good at it and, since its easily the most popular sports game worldwide, the online competition is absolutely brutal.

          •  BTW, I started Fallout 3 so many times (only (0+ / 0-)

            time that's ever happened for me) because it's made by a company in Bethesda, Maryland, where I grew up, and it features a huge map of the Washington, D.C. area.  I was born in D.C. and have lived and worked there for many years.  I kept thinking it would be cool to prowl around old stomping grounds in a game with highly accurate environmental details.  They even copied the flora from local parks like Great Falls.

            Alas, it was a snooze.  I never got far enough to actually get into downtown D.C.

            In contrast, a fellow lawyer friend of mine, with no ties to D.C., thinks it is one of the all-time greatest games.

            You're very wrong that Bethesda RPGs are gorier than GTA.  At least that's my opinion.

            As for FIFA, not my thing.

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