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  •  So then she acted irresponsibly. (0+ / 0-)

    You asked what the diarist was suggesting if not that she shouldn't have tried to have him committed.  I was merely offering that alternative (i.e. the answer to your "or what?")

    “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

    by jrooth on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:06:41 AM PST

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    •  JROOTH: were you there? Did you see (0+ / 0-)

      what happened to the MURDER VICTIM you are smearing here?
      If not perhaps you should not comment until the facts are known.

      LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

      by BlackSheep1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:34:46 AM PST

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      •  I know these facts: (0+ / 0-)

        1) She owned an arsenal of guns and ammunition.

        2) Her son managed to get hold of those guns and ammunition.

        What more is needed to conclude she acted irresponsibly?

        “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

        by jrooth on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 01:04:12 PM PST

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        •  How about, he didn't get hold of them until after (0+ / 0-)

          HE MURDERED HER????

          Or are all murder victims complicit in their own deaths, and irresponsible because they were murdered???????

          LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

          by BlackSheep1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 01:50:34 PM PST

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          •  He got hold of at least one before he murdered her (1+ / 0-)
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            It's what he used to murder her, and what he used later at the school.

            "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

            by Catte Nappe on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 02:00:24 PM PST

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          •  Your hypothetical doesn't fit the known facts. (0+ / 0-)

            He used one of those guns to kill her.

            “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

            by jrooth on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 02:04:25 PM PST

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            •  Had he only killed her, would that have been (0+ / 0-)

              less a murder?

              LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

              by BlackSheep1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 02:09:26 PM PST

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              •  What does that have to do with (0+ / 0-)

                the irresponsibility of a gun owner failing to secure her guns?

                Are we suddenly not allowed to call an irresponsible action irresponsible if it resulted in the murder of the person who did it?  I'm sorry but I've never understood this "one must never say anything bad about the dead" concept.  The dead deserve only truth - just like the living.

                “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

                by jrooth on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 02:22:33 PM PST

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                •  You're still blaming a dead woman (0+ / 0-)

                  instead of the murderer.

                  LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

                  by BlackSheep1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 03:08:39 PM PST

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                  •  Responsibility is not an indivisible unit. (0+ / 0-)

                    Saying the mother acted irresponsibly doesn't absolve the son.

                    And once again, I reject the notion that one cannot speak hard truths about the dead.

                    “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

                    by jrooth on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 03:56:58 PM PST

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                    •  Just as I reject the assumption you can blame her (0+ / 0-)

                      without more facts.

                      LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

                      by BlackSheep1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 04:50:32 PM PST

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