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  •  I thought Obama had a good press conference (2+ / 0-)
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    it's the negotiating table that's the problem.  He is letting political perception get in the way of good negotiating.  The GOP will never respect Obama until he shows a willingness to go off the cliff.  Obama may have high minded concerns about the plight of those who will be most affected (e.g., ending of unemployment insurance and general uncertainty), but if he was so fearful of that impact then he should never have agreed to the budget control act which set up the fiscal cliff scenario in the first place.  Leadership is about having the stomach to deal with the consequences of decisions or delays in getting to a decision.

    He needs to get out of Obama debate 1 mode (which is where he has been since the weekend) and get back to Obama debate 2/debate 3 mode.  There will be short-term pain for a lot of people when we go over the cliff, just as there was during the government shutdown of 1994.  Back then, the GOP misread Clinton as a softy.  They thought they could roll him and they were totally shocked when he refused to agree to their budget and allowed the government to shut down.  Clinton went on the offensive and won the day.  The GOP views Obama in a similar way.  Obama is repeating mistakes of the 2011, but fortunately Senate Democrats are not willing to go along.

    Obama still seems too eager to win the support of the 47% who didn't vote for him.  I talk to such people all the time, and I can tell you there is nothing Obama can say that will earn their support right now.  They hate him more now than they did pre-election, but are resigned to reality.

    What will work is simply imposing his will because his views are sound on policy and economic terms and in a year the 47% who didn't vote for him will have a different opinion.

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 11:17:34 AM PST

    •  Just let the tax rates go up (0+ / 0-)

      Given how complex the political environment is, the best approach is the simplest.

      1) Let the tax rates expire.  You don't have to do anything to make that happen.

      2) When the sequester rolls around, the GOP won't like cutting the military anymore than we like cutting domestic programs.  But now we have more revenue from 1), so the simplest answer is to half the sequester across the board.

      We won't get in 4 trillion in 10 years but 2 trillion may be plausible.

      As far as the debt ceiling goes, don't give anything on that.

      "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

      by noofsh on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 12:11:51 PM PST

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    •  He does that by grabbing the bully pulpit (0+ / 0-)
      He needs to get out of Obama debate 1 mode (which is where he has been since the weekend) and get back to Obama debate 2/debate 3 mode.
      and getting the hell away from DC. For some reason, he gets into the conciliatory mode when he's hanging around the House. And the longer he's there, the worse it seems to get. He doesn't need to sit across the table from those guys -- not in this electronic age. Strategically, his best bargaining posture is to take the show to the road and negotiate transparently, from the stump, in full public view. In that manner, he frames the message, gains public support and, perhaps most importantly, doesn't have to suffer endless hours of Boner's horrible breath.

      Can I get a Grey Goose on the rocks over here?!

      by G Contractor on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 12:16:40 PM PST

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