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  •  Most people with faith in Obama (7+ / 0-)

    have left here in disgust at what this site is like this week.

    Impeach Norquist!

    by kitebro on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 11:58:28 AM PST

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    •  Yep (7+ / 0-)

      Again...he makes the GOP look like orange colored jerks, then goes on to celebrate a lovely Xmas with his beautiful family.
      Cool customer, our president.

      Citizen #6 on Moon Base Callista

      by Mike E on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 12:05:09 PM PST

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    •  Well, I'm still here, thinking this is all working (2+ / 0-)
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      kitebro, Headlight

      just the way Obama thought it would; he offers concessions, many of which he knew would be painful for Democrats but demonstrating to others that he was willing a trade pain-for-pain, knowing (or at least, betting) that Boehner would reject it because he couldn't get the votes from his own caucus.

      Plan B, in my opinion, is simply weak attempt by Boner to deflect the blame back to Obama; unfortunately, to get votes for a Plan B, the plan will have to be so unreasonable that he'll fail.

      The most violent element in society is ignorance.

      by Mr MadAsHell on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 12:43:13 PM PST

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      •  What if it passes? (0+ / 0-)

        Do you really think there won't be enough D senators willing to go along with it? I think Plan B may pass and then what will Obama do?

        •  Reid has an easy and political pain-free option (2+ / 0-)
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          Plan B as passed by the House comes over to the Senate.  A substitute amendment with the language from the previous Senate bill is offered.  It will either pass or be filibustered by the Republicans.  The bill as amended is then sent back to the House, or die at the hands of the Senate's Republicans.  

          Boehner will have gotten all his members to vote for tax cuts on a bill that the Senate Democrats can first vilify, then amend and send back.  Senate Republicans aren't going to go out on a limb trying to save Boehner's ass, or the house Republicans.  It's a lamebrain strategy to try to shift blame to Obama -- who will, in fact, never even have the chance to veto it.  

        •  Won't get 60... (0+ / 0-)

          Remember, Kerry is leaving office, all he has to do is object.

      •  And Who pray tell does this help him with exactly? (0+ / 0-)

        Is there any poll which shows that more than an insignificant number of people actually believe him trying to act conciliatory to appear like the lone "Adult in the room" has won him anything?

        Because so far it's made the left pissed off and the right giddy for the same reason: He keeps backing down from his positions and seems to be open to rightward (but not leftward) pressure.

        If this all turns out to be some amazing Judo I'll change my tune but as of right now it seems to me that this president is succeeding DESPITE his leadership style and attempts to compromise, not BECAUSE of them.

      •  I have to agree... (1+ / 0-)
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        Mr MadAsHell

        My thinking mirrors yours on this.  I hope we're right.

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