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  •  Does anyone take note of when this was written? (3+ / 0-)
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    For heaven sakes, the definition of "arms" has changed quite a bit since the late 1700s.  People could keep dry powder and a musket in their homes because they did not have a phone, TV, computer or other device to remain informed, organize and/or call for help.  Today, we are "armed" with all these devices to defend our free state.  Now, all we need is a brand new musket with dry powder and several musket balls.  Private citizens should be guaranteed nothing else.

    •  You do bring up an interesting angle (0+ / 0-)

      While what is literally meant by 'arms' is open to interpretation (and it shouldn't be, that needs fixing) you bring up an interesting concept.

      The idea that we, as citizens, have instant communication, meter-level GPS, instant portable video links, and 24 hour news service is something which would have left our Founders gobsmacked.

      Our military certainly views information and communication as a 'munition'.. If General Washington had even a 10% of what we carry in our pockets to use against the British, he would have had a sh!t eating grin even WITH his bad teeth.

      Our 1st Amendment rights amplify our power.

      I'm saddened but I understand that Heller changed what the 2nd Amendment meant. The Founder's intentions are nice, but don't really apply right now.

      That being said, that the 'keep & bear' and 'militia' meanings are different now.. lets fix the rest of it. You want an animal killing tool? ok, fine. You want a self defense tool? Ok, fine. You want a tool meant to kill men at a scale of 5:1 or better.. tell me why or go back to playing Call Of Duty.

      I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever. - Thomas Jefferson

      by MightyMoose on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 04:38:50 PM PST

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    •  Bolt-action rifles force hunters to re-aim (0+ / 0-)

      carefully between shots.

      That is a very good thing.

      "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

      by bontemps2012 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 04:47:58 PM PST

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    •  To say nothing of the fact (0+ / 0-)

      that those old muskets were a tool used to provide game for the supper table.  

      Most people don't have to go hunting to stuff themselves with Big macs.

      The sleep of reason brings forth monsters. --Goya

      by MadScientist on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 05:00:29 PM PST

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      •  Are you suggesting that there are some people (0+ / 0-)

        who do have to go hunting to stuff themselves with 'Big Macs' or that going hunting subsequently gives one an appetite for overindulging in a number of said Macs?

        No actual response to my smart-ass question is expected, I just had to ask it.

        Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense. Carl Sagan

        by sjburnman on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:38:11 PM PST

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