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  •  Grand Theft Auto (0+ / 0-)

    that's the game where women are raped and then killed, right?

    Several years back, I recall my republican co-worker buying it for her sons for a Christmas gift. Granted, the young men were 'adults,' and later joined the military because of lack of employment in this area.  How can this be good for anyone?

    I'm sure they are all livid at the thought of Obama the Kenyan working overtime to take away their Second Amendment rights.

    •  Grand Theft Auto (4+ / 0-)
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      sagesource, MPociask, zoebear, jobobo

      is not actually the game where women are raped and then killed.

      You are probably confusing it with the multitude of prime-time crime dramas on our major networks which feature women being raped and then killed.

    •  No, it's not. (1+ / 0-)
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      sagesource

      There is no rape in that game.

      Tons of murder, gambling, drinking, prostitution, and speeding though.

    •  What? (0+ / 0-)

      I can't think of any even remotely mainstream games where women are "raped and then killed". Maybe some obscure Japanese game somewhere based on particularly violent hentai, if such a title even exists.

      •  What am I missing? (0+ / 0-)

        "The latest Grand Theft Auto game lets players have sex with and then graphically kill hookers."

        Salon article below:

        http://www.salon.com/...

        •  A bit (0+ / 0-)

          You're missing the fact that you can kill the hookers because you can kill pretty much anything that moves in that kind of open-world game.

          Also, as someone that's been playing video & computer games since before I could read, that Salon writer's implication that having sex with and then killing prostitutes is a common male gamer fantasy...it's absurd, and frankly pretty insulting. And the idea that killing a simulated prostitute somehow equates to one's first sexual experience is even more ridiculous.

          Someone in the comments on the page you linked puts it pretty well -

          This article has exactly the same problem, but with mysoginism. The scenario described (killing a hooker after having business with her) is just a specific instance of the generic "kill who you want" scenario of the game. Imagine, you can kill the hispanic hot-dog stand guy who sold you his wares, or kill any black policeman you see, or run over the white car salesman, or, or, or... anything. Schoolchildren? Fair game. Couples? Twice the score! Mobsters? Hey, a guy has to reduce the competition to win. In fact, I could posit without tongue in cheek that this game is the most egalitarian you can find. The only place a mysoginist can be found is at the end of the controller, if any.

          The whole article is basically someone with very little experience with video games setting out with the express intention of being offended, and letting everything she sees be horribly skewed by her own viewpoint(s).

          Would it be a good idea for someone mentally ill and/or with violence issues to abstain from this sort of game? Probably. Is it going to turn an otherwise healthy person into a murdering rapist? No chance in the slightest.

          •  IMO, pathetic excuse for a 'game' (0+ / 0-)

            I find killing prostitutes disturbing, as I would if the user also killed children and domestic animals. And this passes for entertainment?

            •  Indeed (0+ / 0-)

              According to Wikipedia, the series has sold a combined 114 million units as of last year. Suffice to say just a few people enjoy them - they're games, not some kind of irresistable, evil corrupting force.

              After a point, the draw of a game like GTA is enjoying just how over-the-top and ridiculous the things you can do are, like a cheesy horror movie. The average player has no problem remaining consicious of the fact that you should never, ever do many things in real life that you can do in games.

              If you personally think they're horrible and don't want to play them, then that's certainly your right...but really, only people like Sen. Manchin (who has probably never played anything beyond Pong or Pac-Man, if at all) looking for a scapegoat would bring up an old game like GTA anymore.

              Read up on the saga of Jack Thompson sometime, and see exactly how well his crusade against violent games went.

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