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  •  I was there. (7+ / 0-)

    I blame it on the shitty civilian security guards who were in place for years beforehand.

    We had No MP's at the gate.  We had contractors who merely glanced at tags, and didn't bother searching cars of anybody with a high enough rank.

    Of course AFTER the event we had every single gate guarded by armed guards.

    Of course nobody bothered addressing the fact that it was a bully who picked the most vulnerable soldiers to shoot.  

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 05:24:29 PM PST

    •  Outsourcing - instead of actually guarding the (5+ / 0-)

      base.

      I blame it on the shitty civilian security guards who were in place for years beforehand.
      •  I work for the DOD police (6+ / 0-)

        Our officers are well trained and attend a federally certified law enforcement academy. Even with a well-trained police force, the chances of stopping a determined killer before he or she takes lives is remote. That goes for military bases and civilian communities.

        I've been doing military law enforcement both on active duty and as a civilian for 30 years. Our officers are quite capable and it was our brethren at Fort Hood that got Major Hassan stopped before he could do more than he did.  

        Guns are never the principle in the commission of a crime, but they are usually an accomplice

        by MadGeorgiaDem on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:51:22 PM PST

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        •  You are soooo correct (6+ / 0-)
          Even with a well-trained police force, the chances of stopping a determined killer before he or she takes lives is remote. That goes for military bases and civilian communities.
          I regret my hasty and ill-thought comment. Thank you for responding (both to my cheap comment, and for what your colleagues did that day to minimize the carnage).
        •  But some of the yahoos that want to carry (1+ / 0-)
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          what, when and where they want are "special". Each of them will be the exception.

          I know a few people with guns. Absolutely NONE of them even goes to the range to practice--let alone do they intensively drill--annually.

          202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

          by cany on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 07:43:56 PM PST

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          •  That has been the crux of my argument (0+ / 0-)

            against these carry laws. It allows too many irresponsible, immature and ill-trained people carrying around guns in public.

            Guns are never the principle in the commission of a crime, but they are usually an accomplice

            by MadGeorgiaDem on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:22:12 AM PST

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