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  •  I think the point is (4+ / 0-)
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    tardis10, Bulldozer, artisanrox, CS in AZ

    this change doesn't mean the the initial amount of future retirees is lower. It doesn't whittle Social Security away for future retirees. It would be much more unfair to tell my son that he has to pay the same 12.4% but will not receive the same benefit level. Considering how few hourly workers get any type of minimum cost of living wage increase it is hard to maintain that for retirees. This type of fight is going to keep popping up, this wrong headed downward income pressure, until we strengthen labor and the worker. This is just one more side effect of years of efforts against the middle class.

    A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by notrouble on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 07:24:46 PM PST

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    •  So why doesn't President Obama fight for some.. (2+ / 0-)
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      ..type of supplemental wage insurance program?

      Bush gave seniors another entitlement, a prescription drug benefit which Senator Kennedy described as a great first step.  And he didn't pay for it.

      President Obama is cutting the cornerstone of the Safety Net, Social Security, at a time when the bond market, pricing the 10-year bond at 1.80%, is telegraphing that the US has neither a deficit nor debt problem.

      Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

      by PatriciaVa on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 07:32:34 PM PST

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    •  Well maybe they could give us merit increases (2+ / 0-)
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      or promotions instead of COLAs.  My retirement savings would go a lot further if I could still buy a gallon of gas for $0.36.  

    •  No. It's not hard. It has never been hard that way (2+ / 0-)
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      jabney, Bulldozer

      What is hard is watching the Medicare Part B go up so far that the net is less than it was the prior year. Nobody in SS  officialdom has been complaining about the burdens of the COLA.

      And the cut is not only for SS but for veterans and a lot of others, and where, now, is that money supposed to go? Not into the separate programs from which it is taken, but for some pay by  unfunded credit republican bills such as the 300 billion in unofficial DOD expenses which are not in the regular budget but are still bills which have to be paid, while the vets of those unfunded wars get cut. .

    •  It is lower than it would be (0+ / 0-)

      if the proposed change is not enacted.

      In oher words, a cut.

      I hhave no idea when Republican silliness became the way to go on this particular issue.

      IT is false and morally wrong.

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